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Feb 9 2023 04:12pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 8 2023 08:00pm)
No sense is dangerous, but not as dangerous than an Angry god who did the biggest massacre in mankind history.



he's a troll i call him c3p0. golden religious droids or something B) clearly doesnt believe in the god made in own image. its fine but i dont know why he pretends to be christian.

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Feb 9 2023 05:08pm
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so? whats the number when you start caring? 1?, 1 million? 10 million? or are you just faking it because its a dig at God? I never hear chit about genocide from antitheists except when it comes to scripture then they get all pious. ........fakes


Minimum 100 millions maximum 2 billions. So i think that 750 millions was reasonable, but you accept it at 500 millions being exterminated it will be ok.
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Feb 9 2023 05:15pm
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Minimum 100 millions maximum 2 billions. So i think that 750 millions was reasonable, but you accept it at 500 millions being exterminated it will be ok.


nope your the one ok with mass deaths. never hear chit from you about baby murder. or multitudes of genocides through out history. you only have a problem when its in scripture. stuff you say you dont even believe............

Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered
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Feb 9 2023 05:35pm
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nope your the one ok with mass deaths. never hear chit from you about baby murder. or multitudes of genocides through out history. you only have a problem when its in scripture. stuff you say you dont even believe............

Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered




God decided to wipe out "all life under the heavens...Everything on earth will perish." (Genesis 6:17, NIV). This indicates the Flood was universal and not regional.

Damnit.




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Feb 9 2023 05:54pm
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he's a troll i call him c3p0. golden religious droids or something B) clearly doesnt believe in the god made in own image. its fine but i dont know why he pretends to be christian.


Btw i just realized God also did the 10 plagues, which one was to wipe all the first born babies of a whole country.
Exodus 12:29
At midnight the LORD struck down all the firstborn in Egypt


There's also these things (seems there are several of those)
(1 Samuel 15:3-4, emp. added).
God instructed Saul through the prophet Samuel to “go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey”

Was AFTER the first time when he wiper out almost all humanity and animals. Damnit.

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Btw i just realized God also did the 10 plagues, which one was to wipe all the first born babies of a whole country.
Exodus 12:29
At midnight the LORD struck down all the firstborn in Egypt


There's also these things (seems there are several of those)
(1 Samuel 15:3-4, emp. added).
God instructed Saul through the prophet Samuel to “go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey”

Was AFTER the first time when he wiper out almost all humanity and animals. Damnit.



well its possible they were sinners and technically god can command you not to kill or command you to kill a killer and still be just.

the issue is really in these 3 factors:

who publishes the bible.
who edits it.
the primary/secondary sources not aligned w/ the two above.

so even if its righteous to kill, and it can be, even if its the holy spirit inspiring all scripture, and it could be, no where in the scripture did it state that every piece of scripture in the bible was of og god and that said god would need to edit his perfect word more perfectly as creation becomes more flawed.

from this i think you can discern the bible is worldly and so if you fix the bible aka patch it, it still was a broken compass that would be accredited to the individual who fixed it.
i communicate this to Tistuff /others often by saying you need to have living testimony since its not had a content update in couple hundred years among other things.

the fact there is no third testament and million page bible really shows whats going on.

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Feb 9 2023 07:59pm
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well its possible they were sinners and technically god can command you not to kill or command you to kill a killer and still be just.

the issue is really in these 3 factors:

who publishes the bible.
who edits it.
the primary/secondary sources not aligned w/ the two above.

so even if its righteous to kill, and it can be, even if its the holy spirit inspiring all scripture, and it could be, no where in the scripture did it state that every piece of scripture in the bible was of og god and that said god would need to edit his perfect word more perfectly as creation becomes more flawed.

from this i think you can discern the bible is worldly and so if you fix the bible aka patch it, it still was a broken compass that would be accredited to the individual who fixed it.
i communicate this to Tistuff /others often by saying you need to have living testimony since its not had a content update in couple hundred years among other things.

the fact there is no third testament and million page bible really shows whats going on.


It's all in the scriptures, all translations: massacres, genocides, and mass murders: Men, women, children, babies, even animals. A third testament will still have the burden of the first two.

Have you ever wondered why there are no Amalekites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites today?
If you believe the Biblical accounts of history in the Old Testament are accurate, it may be because God commanded the Israelites to slaughter those people groups–men, women, children, infants, and animals.

Yep: Genocides, not one but 4.

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It's all in the scriptures, all translations: massacres, genocides, and mass murders: Men, women, children, babies, even animals. A third testament will still have the burden of the first two.



yes but you could justify those practices logically by saying the people being axed were all corrupted/bad,
no different than cutting down dying trees that didnt know they were dead w/ people not understanding that they infact were.

youd have to try to see it from a more unbias perspective to really figure out if its a contradiction.

However i cannot justify any of it in its entirety if its fundamentally fabricated by sinister forces, and so those sinister forces would of course create a vicious narrative of pillaging rival forces.

conceptually though - the lack of empathy, feeling and compassion in of itself is the real problem w/ the writing i think youll agree. It's as though the god of the old testament had no feeling or atleast the bible did not articulate the disappointment well and that should shake the faith of most if nothing else because it shows the bible is very ungodly from that perspective.

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Feb 9 2023 08:17pm
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yes but you could justify those practices logically by saying they were all corrupted/bad,
no different than cutting down dying trees that didnt know they were dead w/ people not understanding that they infact were.

youd have to try to see it from a more unbias perspective to really figure out if its a contradiction.

However i cannot justify any of it in its entirety if its fundamentally fabricated by sinister forces, and so those sinister forces would of course create a viscious narrative of pillaging rival forces.

conceptually though - the lack of empathy, feeling and compassion in of itself is the real problem w/ the writing i think youll agree. It's as though the god of the old testament had no feeling and that should shake the faith of most if nothing else.


Whatever the very believers can claim it was justified: the amount of massacres is so large and brutal it ends up being too disturbing for the average people.
This is vastly embarassing and they NEVER talk about it. They only have a pre-selection of vague versets they can twist the way they want and that's it...

The good news is i will use that each time to cut the crap when they start to involve their "pro-life" values...
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Feb 9 2023 08:18pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 10 2023 12:15pm)
nope your the one ok with mass deaths. never hear chit from you about baby murder. or multitudes of genocides through out history. you only have a problem when its in scripture. stuff you say you dont even believe............

Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered


According to the bible God jesus wiped the entirety of human race including all living things except for a minute few. Plagues of Egypt, mass genocide, mass baby extermination, etc etc which he murders people over and over and over again
That's equivalent of 99.9999999% of the human race wiped. Nice God you worship there buddy please tell us more on mass deaths again?
You probably won't have to worry though because most of it was fake news anyway. But if you believe it's true then you believe in the most murderous being that humans invented. Not even thanos can compare to the bible God making infants die in the millions

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