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Sep 26 2023 07:49am
Quote (Malopox @ Sep 26 2023 02:15pm)
I doubt this was a mistake. They knew what they are doing, just thought they can get away with it.

You cannot simply meet G7 leader and a war time president behind closed doors without getting vetted and all your relatives getting vetted. They knew he was serving in SS, but were ok with it. It was only when the Jewish diaspora started crying that they had to “apologize”. And that will probably be the end of it.

Some people should have walked out when they realized what is going down after Rota introduced him. Nobody did. They are all complicit.

War is hell and POWs will get tortured and sometimes die. I wish this didn’t happen.


Well let's rationalize this. You believe they knew he was SS.
So what do they have to gain from bringing this dude. An opportunist round of applause and very minor boost of propaganda.
Versus what did they have to lose if people found out who he was.
A massive gaffe that embarrassed both nations and leaders. Giving propaganda potential to Russia that feed into their false de nazification rhetoric.
Also considering a simple google could have provided information so it's not as if the media would struggle to find out who he was.
Does that seem like a risk worth taking for so little gain?
I doubt it.

Doesn't it seem more likely that the dude fucked up?
Don't you think if they truly did a good job of vetting the guy it would clearly be poor judgement to bring him out?


Also it's not realistic to expect people to immediately make thay connection and walk out after literally seeing the dude for the first time. Especially if as you say, "they knew" he was SS, wouldn't they go to lengths to hide that fact?
So it would be even less obvious to people. Politicians are dumb ^^
I understand its convenient to say all those in attendance would be complicit but its a 100% a stretch.

Poor taste imo to suggest Russians have no choice but to torture people to death.

Also a mistake to link those murders that happened over the past 18 months to some political gaffe that happened this week, as if the gaffe was some kind of justification.

People always have a choice. Most often people will choose the path of least resistance.
Russians generally are choosing the path of least resistance in passively accepting Putins war; As opposed to resisting what has been a pointless loss of life for both sides.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Sep 26 2023 07:50am
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Sep 26 2023 07:50am
1 year nordstream terror attack anniversary and there are actively zero fucks given
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Sep 26 2023 07:54am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Sep 26 2023 02:50pm)
1 year nordstream terror attack anniversary and there are actively zero fucks given


Put a jumper on you'll get over it.
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Sep 26 2023 08:00am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 26 Sep 2023 15:50)
1 year nordstream terror attack anniversary and there are actively zero fucks given


I will paint the situation:

** War crimes, rape, loot, torture,children deportation, total military agression, almost genocide **

==>

" s i l e n c e "

"but... It's war you know "

" s i l e n c e "

"It's war, shit happen, NATO fault ThE WesT btw look urr durr 20 years ago here or here ..."

" s i l e n c e "



** Underground/sea pipe explode **


==>

" IT'S UKRAINE IT's UKRAINE NAZZIIIISSSSS NAZZIIIIIIISSSS !!!! "

" ANNIVERSARY !!! IT'S UKRAINE IT's UKRAINE NAZZIIIISSSSS NAZZIIIIIIISSSS !!!! "

" IT'S AN ACT OF WAR AGAINST GERMANY UKRAINE NAZIIIIS PUTIN GOOD sluuurp sluuurp sllupp HMMM GOOD JUICE"



Understand the hack ? Horrible.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 26 2023 08:19am
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Sep 26 2023 08:09am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 26 2023 03:54pm)
Put a jumper on you'll get over it.


Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 26 2023 04:00pm)
I will paint the situation:

** War crimes, rape, loot, torture,children deportation, total military agression, almost genocide **

==>

" s i l e n c e "

"but... It's war you know "

" s i l e n c e "

"It's war, shit happen, NATO fault ThE WesT btw look urr durr 20 years ago here or here ..."

" s i l e n c e "



** Underground/sea pipe explode **


==>

" IT'S UKRAINE IT's UKRAINE NAZZIIIISSSSS NAZZIIIIIIISSSS !!!! "

" ANNIVERSARY !!! IT'S UKRAINE IT's UKRAINE NAZZIIIISSSSS NAZZIIIIIIISSSS !!!! "



Understand the hack ? Horrible.


the ukraine cheerleaders in the building :rofl:
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Sep 26 2023 08:10am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 26 Sep 2023 16:09)
the ukraine cheerleaders in the building :rofl:


Which building ?
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Sep 26 2023 08:15am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 26 Sep 2023 15:50)
1 year nordstream terror attack anniversary and there are actively zero fucks given


I think the German investigators are in a massive pickle as what little evidence we have leads to Ukraine (and possibly Americans). Since this constitutes an act of war against Germany you can’t announce this unless you have 100% bulletproof evidence as this will change the course of this war (and could potentially spell the end of NATO if Americans are indeed involved).
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Sep 26 2023 08:26am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 26 Sep 2023 16:00)
I will paint the situation:

** War crimes, rape, loot, torture,children deportation, total military agression, almost genocide **

==>

" s i l e n c e "

"but... It's war you know "

" s i l e n c e "

"It's war, shit happen, NATO fault ThE WesT btw look urr durr 20 years ago here or here ..."

" s i l e n c e "



** Underground/sea pipe explode **


==>

" IT'S UKRAINE IT's UKRAINE NAZZIIIISSSSS NAZZIIIIIIISSSS !!!! "

" ANNIVERSARY !!! IT'S UKRAINE IT's UKRAINE NAZZIIIISSSSS NAZZIIIIIIISSSS !!!! "



Understand the hack ? Horrible.


My definition of Nazis is people who are pro-racial purity are antisemitic and do not mind resorting to violence to help their cause.

We know Nazis (the ugly kind) existed in Ukraine during WW2 for a fact as most recent blunder in the Canadian parliament is showing us and we know that nazis still run some part of their army as this picture below shows.



A valid question is whether denazifying is a good casus belli to invade a sovereign nation, which in my personal opinion is not enough.

Having security concerns is a legitimate reason to invade even though it is considered illegal as it breaks international law designed to prevent exactly this. Question is whether a nation can get away with breaking international law. Yankees were getting away with illegal invasions for decades now, so Russians thought they could get away with this just like they did in Georgia. NATO is trying to prove them wrong.

Since none of us couch warriors sit in the command center of either armies, nor at the front lines - we only can wait and watch it all unfold before our eyes while being toxic smartasses to each other on the internet.

/// Why do I bother replying to pierre anyway. He is not able to comprehend what I’m writing. He will just post a picture of Utkin or something.
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Sep 26 2023 08:27am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 26 2023 03:10pm)
Which building ?


Not this one,

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Sep 26 2023 08:31am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 26 Sep 2023 16:27)
Not this one,

https://i.imgur.com/1okEzVy.mp4


Oh, wait, but i can't cope like a pig about NAZI WEST VETERAN SS with this video :(
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