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Sep 25 2023 08:09am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 25 Sep 2023 14:40)
How stupid are the people? I always thought that most politicians rise to the top because they are cunning, good critical thinkers, etc. Is the calculus non-existent in their heads? They could have just seal-clapped for Zelensky like they usually do instead of bringing additional props that I'm sure they understood the risks.


Quote (Malopox @ 25 Sep 2023 15:43)
Anyone who would’ve spent more than 30 seconds thinking about that introduction by Mr Rota would’ve come to the conclusion that this guy was fighting for the Germans and you should get the fuck out before you are on video next to this guy. I wonder what these MPs grandfathers murdered by Waffen SS would have said if they saw their grandkids thanking Waffen SS veteran “for his service”.

I think these MPs are dumb as fuck and didn’t think this through and just went along with it because current sentiment is: “Ukraine good, Russia bad”.

Monumental fuckup.






This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 25 2023 08:25am
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Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 25 2023 01:05pm)
The waffen SS in Ukraine were carrying out some of the worst atrocities of the whole holocaust and eastern front in general, with about a million jews and three million slavs, gypsies and poles all murdered mostly by Nazi-organized Ukrainian nationalists and militia like this guy, the Bandera types. There's a western bias in media and popular culture to emphasize the western front and atrocities more visible to the folks who made hollywood movies about it, but the worst of the worst Nazis were militias and cooperators on the eastern front. The 100,000+ massacred in one mass grave in Kiev or those in Odessa didn't reach the concentration camps. And who was carrying out that butchery? The local SS units.

I mean, these guys were the bad Nazis, a distinction we aren't supposed to have to make these days


Ok, point well made. Perhaps slightly pedantic? Don't think anyone is arguing the SS were doing a great job. I am certainly not.
I also speak for myself. I don't speak for any bias media or supposedly popular culture; So I'm not really looking to argue what you say is their position.

Quote (Malopox @ Sep 25 2023 12:17pm)
I, for once, agree with everything you said here in your analysis.


In that case I must then obviously recant everything that I just said :D

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 25 2023 01:16pm)
34 officers ?? wtf ! :o

https://i.imgur.com/NjUw38e.png


Difficult to verify but what I read is it was a meeting if officers and Budanov took that moment to strike.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Sep 2023 16:25)
Difficult to verify but what I read is it was a meeting if officers and Budanov took that moment to strike.


To have so much targets eliminated it was not only the right moment but also the right part of the building

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 25 2023 09:24am)
Ok, point well made. Perhaps slightly pedantic? Don't think anyone is arguing the SS were doing a great job. I am certainly not.
I also speak for myself. I don't speak for any bias media or supposedly popular culture; So I'm not really looking to argue what you say is their position.


I'm saying that if you had to pick the biggest boogeymen of all the Nazis during WW2, you couldn't select a worse group than the SS in eastern europe. I mean, contrast that with the Afrika Korps
Rommel might as well have been flying Uncle Wigglywings plane giving sweets to kids by comparison

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 25 2023 12:57pm)
Ruscism is perfectly related and accurate, unlike these Staline era stretches.

PROOF:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruscism


You like Wiki pages? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_Charlemagne

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The Waffen Grenadier Brigade of the SS Charlemagne (German: Waffen-Grenadier-Brigade der SS "Charlemagne") was a Waffen-SS unit formed in September 1944 from French collaborationists


:o :o


Quote (Malopox @ Sep 25 2023 01:46pm)
Embarrassing really.

Trying to prove Waffen SS did nothing wrong.

Wow.

Why are you like that pierre?


He's like that because his countrymen volunteered for the waffen SS ^_^

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Sep 25 2023 08:49am
So a question to our resident canucks here, will Rota resign as a result of this or this will blow over?
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Russian Media Rhetoric Could Be 'Incitement to Genocide,' Says UN Probe.

Pretty astounding when we read, here, ruscists farting about some "Nazi Zelensky" meeting in Canada

Jesus these people are the worst hypocrites ever.

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Quote (Malopox @ Sep 25 2023 11:49am)
So a question to our resident canucks here, will Rota resign as a result of this or this will blow over?


I doubt he resigns, if there is a media firestorm over it then he will get thrown to the wolves but most likely it all blows over
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