We have clearly better things to discuss than your "NAZIIIIIS" rambling and dilutions attempts.

Like this Putin's statement: I hope he will not fire Shoigu, this guy is a keeper.

Yes, but one should make a distinction between Ukranian Independence / Nationalism movement that started even before Nazis existed after the break up of the Russian Empire with the likes of Konovalets and UVO.

UPA / Independence Fighters coexisted with Waffen SS and collaborated, but were not part each other.

However we are not discussing Ukranian Nationalism or Independence fighters, who’s name was unfortunately irreparably tainted by Bandera and Shukhevich through their collaborations with Nazis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army

We are now talking about people who volunteered to join Waffen SS. Yes, that Waffen SS. The Germans. The racial purity stuff, the lebensraum stuff.

All eyes on Zelenskyy as he is now in a tight spot as Canadian Jews are crying foul about Waffen SS and he cannot really condemn that guy as he will face repercussions domestically from the like of Biletsky and domestic far right. It’s an uneasy alliance he is making domestically and I do not envy him.

Not the first time he does it. Every time he is cornered he will do the below.

1. Call you names and mud sling
2. Deflect and use things that happened before to lay his claims and to let other potential new Pard users think he is somewhat of a righteous individual ( If we use it , it is whataboutsim )
3. Post pictures to degrade you if he believes you are from this particular country or race.
4. Report your post if he feels your statements or retort is anywhere close to what he think is a harassment while he does that to you 24/7

Classic communist style really.

We are discussing Canadian Parliament thanking Waffen SS veteran for his service.

Get lost, troll.

hang you, you refer to ruzisms or w/e you call it, daily.

Ruscism is perfectly related and accurate, unlike these Staline era stretches.

PROOF:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruscism

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 25 2023 04:57am

sir, do you not remember our conversations about this ?

Mostly agree with what your saying and I do see why Jews or anyone could be offended by honouring the dude. I think its a gaffe that didn't need to happen really, dunno why Trudeau would organise that without realising this potential backlash.

I would say that it is convenient to connect that dude with the crimes of Nazi Germany and the SS because he clearly volunteered to fight with them against the Soviets; I don't think it would ever be that simple in reality.
I could be wrong but I doubt the SS were providing manifestos to potential recruits explaining how they will be gassing people in exacting their final solution.
Equally possible the guy could have known perfectly well.

I still think it's fair to assume an Ukrainian given the chance to fight against the Soviets around 1941 would have been highly motivated by the recent genocide of some 5 million Ukrainians by the Soviets.
And been willing to accept that the third reich were sadists but the lesser of two evils at that moment, from their perspective.
That is just speculation of course, but reasonable nonetheless.

At the very least its a gaffe from Zelensky and Trudeau, one that could offend alot of people.
And not something any critics of Zelensky or Trudeau would ever pass up as an opportunity to exploit.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Sep 25 2023 05:14am

You means when you said that "ruscism" was a racist term ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruscism

Ruscism
This article is about the contemporary syncretic ideology of Russia. For the 1930–1940s Russian fascism, see Russian Fascist Party. For the political ideology of Vladimir Putin, see Putinism.
Not to be confused with Racism or Russianism.

=> You REFUSED to admit it by quitting discussion.


Is it divisive ? Not that much when I see the bunch of copium over "Ukrainians Naziiisss", while digging holes in Bucha...

I would call it; - A necessary correction / reminder -

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 25 2023 05:17am

I, for once, agree with everything you said here in your analysis.