What happened to all the other vehicles and stuff that was donated?

Inb4 wild deflection

love the whisky discussion

great country out there, i really gotta do another scotland tour

Team "Russia cannot lose" in February/March 2022: "Russia has greatly modernized its military in recent years, Ukraine stands no chance and will fall within a few weeks"
Team "Russia cannot lose" in November/December 2022: "Russia will crush Ukraine's infrastructure with missile strikes, the streets of Kyiv will be filled with corpsicles by the end of winter"
Team "Russia cannot lose" in September 2023: "Russia will greatly modernize its military in the coming years (and then Ukraine will stand no chance and get crushed)"

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 22 2023 02:14pm

Weren't you the "tactical nukes can't punch holes in enemy lines" guy?

It's easy for them to keep moving the goal posts on "not losing."
Because they could never define what a victory was in the first place.

Despite 20+ countries funneling weapons into Ukraine for a year, with the US alone dedicating over 100bn, Ukraine can’t take more than a few villages. Not sure what’s your point, you don’t think they are on war footing? Or do you think if only a little more support for Ukraine and Russia will surely collapse?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Sep 22 2023 03:35pm

I am the one who said, and still assert, that the Russian military is incapable of exploiting a gap in a line made by a tactical nuke. This isn't a claim that a nuke won't do a lot of damage, it's a claim that the Russian military is not equipped to exploit it. First, the blast will have to be behind the front lines to avoid hitting their own lines, or if it hits on the lines, those lines will have to be abandoned in advance, leaving the Ukrainians to advance past the blast zone. Once a blast occurs, the area will be hazardous to both sides, and either side entering the fallout is going to need to move through it fast. But if it's contested by troops who move in from outside the blast zone, that movement is not likely to be swift enough.

It's a silly point to make because nuking would completely break the war, as evidenced by the only times nukes were actually used in wars. If Bushido code Japan surrendered after 2 nukes and having an island, with natural barriers to prevent an invasion/make it very costly, you think somehow a modern country would chose to fight and risk complete annihilations with more nukes? So the point of what happens at the front becomes completely irrelevant.

Japan was under a highly effective blockade that made great shortages of fuel, food, and ammunition. Ukraine has aid pouring in from borders Russia can't touch. These are not analogous in the slightest.

I also think it is important to note, that the Russians are only interested in absorbing all the regions where ethnic Russians and Russian speaking communities are in abundance and resource rich areas.
They are not going to eat up the entire Ukraine. It is going to be very difficult to handle insurgents and pro Western / Ukraine freedom fighters even if the war comes to a ceasefire / standstill in some manner.

The Russian's will want to take Odesa Oblast and choke Ukraine into a Rump State. Force negotiations and draw a 38th Parallel sort of agreement. I believe that is the end motive or what they are hoping for as the end game.