Well they are no Scotland that's for sure

Pathetic

How NATO shills went from push to Crimea in a week to celebrating the fall of Robotyne after three months

I could type shit like this all day long

This post was edited by Djunior on Sep 21 2023 12:19pm

Well, I, for my part, have never been an uncritical "ukraine cheerleader". I never advocated for unconditional or limitless support to Ukraine.
And it's not really a contradiction to generally support Ukraine, but call them out if and when they go too far in their brash, tone-deaf treatment of allies.

Likewise, it's not a contradiction for Ukraine's supporters to have given them a shot at winning back lost territories, but then asking them to accept realities on the ground once it has turned out that that's just not gonna happen.
"Dropping them like a hot potato" would look very different, namely reducing military and financial aid so much that Russia is, in the end, enabled to conquer the rest of Ukraine.

I wonder why people like using terms coined by the Chinese historically and frequently used by Mao.

Wikipedia is now a source or it already had been a source for propaganda and skewed information for quite sometime.
I do not think it is wise to use it as a source anymore for certain Geo political issues. Not all issues but hot button ones and those that are related to it.

The grain is athing for sur sure but... I think Zelensky has minimal amount of advisors... I would go more on some hot air and:

If you read a bit more about this story you may understand that the PIS decided to ally with the FART RIGHT to build a majority for the incoming elections in october. To properly build this alliance the PIS decided to take the risk to make harder stances toward Ukraine and the war itself, btw even with that it is not sure they will get majority anyway, or only 1 chamber etc... I didn't push further into the details.

Would ask to our local polishes : what's the situation, is the PISs winning it along with the fart right ?

tend to agree.

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also, no one has dropped ukraine like a hot potato, just to be clear.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 21 2023 12:37pm

Peanuts when you read a bit about Staline and Gulag. It's barely inimaginable. Even the lastest Gruuk in Mordor can understand it.

Russia has wonderful propaganda, and nukes, along with an historical 3 days to take Kyiv victory. Oh they also have their own wikipedia lol. Truth must be here.


https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/15/russias-answer-to-wikipedia-propaganda-or-common-sense-encyclopedia

the Runiversalis article about the "special military operation" repeats the Kremlin's narrative that Russia wants to "denazify" and "demilitarise" Ukraine.


WEeeeeeeeeeeeeeee



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 21 2023 12:53pm

Who said push Crimea in a week?

Taking Crimea was never even on the table. Getting to Melitopol would have required an incredible blunder of Russian defence.
MSM was expecting Ukraine could achieve a combined arms offensive against well built defences without combined arms.

Something that no modern army would even attempt. Russia at its full strength couldn't take more than 20% of Ukraine and that is without 6 months of dug in trenches.

As it stands Ukraines army won't sever the land bridge to Crimea this year. But two things are happening.
Crimea is within range of storm shadow and the southern supply lines are close to being within HIMAR range.
If any negotiations take place and this is still the case that is leverage for Ukraine.

Russia have shown no appetite to counterattack and ensure Crimea is out of range.
The war has become attritional for both sides and Putin seems reluctant to fully mobilise.
Therefore it is militarily a stalemate at this point.

Wut lol

The NATO trained, NATO equipped superstars were going to smash through the poorly constructed Russian lines and the poorly led, poorly trained and poorly equipped Russian troops that suffer from low morale were going to run for their lives and y'all couldn't wait for the counteroffensive to get started. MSM were talking about reaching Crimea in no time.