A very good and imho realistic article:
https://www.newsweek.com/we-can-no-longer-hide-truth-about-russia-ukraine-war-opinion-1826532

Interesting events going on.
It seems Żelensky made a deal with Brussels EU HQ about how Ukrainian trade with Poland/Slovakia/Hungary should look like.
And nobody in Brussels asked Poland and other Ukraine neighbours about it.
Much arrogancy from Brussels... Could be they made promise too early, and were sticking to it.
I might kind of understand Żelensky, he probably thought he was good, Brussels allowed him unlimited trade with Poland, so it must be very .dissapointing to hear that Poland puts some conditions and there wont be unlimited trade after all.

For some "diplomatic" and "traditional" reasons France communicates little or not at all on the equipment that it gives (or sells) [to Ukraine or others].
Here it is the "multi-task" Mirage 2000 fighter (maybe 40 units, not sure) able to carry long range missiles. Some are already flying in Ukraine, and pilots are training since at least 6 months on it.
/e seems they tested it for a while, and now are signing the agreements.



"Opinion" article. The comment with the "$113 billion" seems completely delirious, as "realistic" as saying: air defense should have been used to advance on the frontline, all the equipment have been used, or that russian material losses are non existant.



No, IMHO there's a political campaign atm (that's an important point) and this is more likely a political game.
Poland already gave alot of weapons to Ukraine and is holding alot of refugees so it now needs to arm itself, at least.

Unfortunately Poland is still a bit of a conservative hole, much friend with U.S since last Trump's visit Sad.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 21 2023 02:21am

its a really bad sign when they have trouble with their most willing supporter

no weapons from poland and the grain deal is off iirc, yikes



the pink elephant is still in the room, washington never cared for one second about a successful offensive

i dont believe for one second that actual experts really expected this to work, its total nonsense

all that matters are human and material losses for russia

Keep up with the news Scotty

The US claimed that Ukraine blew up Nord Stream. Independent Journalists say the US did it. The idea that Russia blew up their own pipleline (when noting Bidens video "we will end it") holds little water. Therefore it can be inferred that Germany was to a degree not happy about this. Germany and Ukraine have had a troubled relationship during the war, and it could be argued that Ukraine is ungrateful "how dare you withhold X items, all we did was blow up your infrastructure".

In relation to Poland and Ukraine, Poland has ever been the tool used against Russia (by the US) and has ever chomped at the bit, lets move our armies into Ukraine (hint: they really dont like Russia) lets fight, WW3 lets go. It's difficult to determine the fallout relating to the current argument between Ukraine and Poland but similar to Ukraine and Germany I dont think it will have a profound impact. Ukraine is fighting for its survival and Zelensky has repeatedly stepped on allies toes when he believes they could do more for him and his country. In this regard he is not a great peacemaker. But Ukraine is trying to do the impossible, reclaim all its land etc. In order to do that it is pushing its allies and bankers as far as it can to get what it needs to achieve its goals. In this regard zelensky has proven to be an amazing charismatic figurehead not comparable to any other leader of today.

TLDR: i dont see a change in policy within Poland relating to this, they are just pissed off that he appears ungrateful. They have their own interests and so does Ukraine and they wont always be aligned. This is the reality.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 21 2023 06:25am

I think further down the road the US / EU will step in to appease Poland so they will publicly make statement to "support " Ukraine again.
A show of dissent amongst EU members at the moment will show the US Led Coalition to be weak thus affecting the elections next year.

What do you think?

Or do you think the US / EU citizens are war weary to a point where they are thinking otherwise?

Bloomberg: Poland says it's still supplying Ukraine with weapons.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-21/poland-says-it-s-still-supplying-ukraine-with-weapons
Poland Seeks to Mend Ukraine Rift With Arms Supplies U-Turn

Like I said previously, political campaigns...

I guess ruscists will be disappointed.


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This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 21 2023 06:38am

My position is: EU citizens are pretty much irrelevant. The narrative in the media will shape the strategy and the narrative is provided by Western leadership. It is clear that the US and Ukraine and the West is NOT war weary. They are preparing for next year. I already gave my views on what would happen next year - a massive increase in fatalities and escalation (all sides) and it getting worse the following year.

i really dont mind giving my views and being proven wrong. I hope to be wrong but everything about events is pointing to this escalation.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 21 2023 06:32am

Absolutely I think everyone counts on a peaceful collapse or transition to a less nationalistic regime in Russia.

Let's not forget Putin invited oligarches in Staline's house in the 2000's... Instead of the presidential Datcha.