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#3531
Apr 6 2022 02:19pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 6 2022 02:16pm)
Like I previously said: I have an excellent bullshit detector. I'm more likely to believe things when they're credible. You bring zero credibility to the discussion, Ivan.


Oh yes, you have such an excellent bullshit detector that you believe "more Russians died than Us marines in Iwo Jima" in a month.

That would mean the Russians would have had to take ~8 thousand killed and another 20-30 thousand wounded at this point. That is only like 20% less than the numbers Ukraine is claiming, which are already over-exaggerated by several orders of magnitude.

What an incredible BS detector you have indeed. Want to buy some bridges for sale?
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Apr 6 2022 02:20pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 6 2022 01:19pm)
Oh yes, you have such an excellent bullshit detector that you believe "more Russians died than Us marines in Iwo Jima" in a month.

That would mean the Russians would have had to take ~8 thousand killed and another 20-30 thousand wounded at this point. That is only like 20% less than the numbers Ukraine is claiming, which are already over-exaggerated by several orders of magnitude.

What an incredible BS detector you have indeed. Want to buy some bridges for sale?



Very funny of you to accuse someone of not being able to detect bullshit lol. You're shameless.
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Apr 6 2022 02:23pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 6 2022 09:16pm)
what's confusing about the US warhack diplomats being talked down by American corporations greedy for cheaply made chinese goods?

in 2022 we call being pro-globalism a leftist idea, but the truth is both sides of the aisle yearned for MADE IN CHINA at half the cost goods, because thats what they were paid to think.

we created the chinese monster, made it better, then better, then better. china may as well be the 51st state that went on to betray us. we took them from a rice patty shit hole and turned them into a smog ridden factory dotted landscape shithole where the govt takes profits with an oversized rake and spent it on weapons and stealing our stuff. and we knew all along, and did nothing, to stock the shelves of walmart in the jurisdiction of every senator and house rep in the entire nation.


only a matter of time before the smog is gone. they are leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the planet in terms of moving to green.
but yes the smog in china is terrible.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 6 2022 02:23pm
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Apr 6 2022 02:23pm
Quote (Sioux @ Apr 6 2022 02:20pm)
Very funny of you to accuse someone of not being able to detect bullshit lol. You're shameless.


Oh yeah I'm so shameless while Santara over here believes everything that comes outta the fucking US "intelligence community", the same guys who backed ISIS and Al-Qaeda in both Syria and Libya, and who have spent the past 8 years backing hardcore neo-nazi radicals in Ukraine.

These people know that Ukraine has no chance of actually winning their war with Russia, so they'll just try to propagandize the whole thing and make their loss like some kind of "victory". After all, all that matters is public perception am I right? Who cares about the facts on the ground?

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Apr 6 2022 02:26pm
Quote (ferdia @ 6 Apr 2022 20:59)
Push heavily for diplomatic solution and immediate ceasefire. if that means lifting of sanctions, do it. pull back while its an option. <-- This wont happen (i.e. i dont believe it will happen).
also its not in order to continue to do business but rather to stop a war.


If the West lifted the sanctions against Russia, which incentive would Putin have to stop the war? I can't think of any. Pulling back now effectively means feeding Ukraine to Russia, meaning that the ultimate outcome of this Russian aggression would be them getting what they wanted. Even if we were willing to sacrifice Ukraine like that, this doesn't strike me as a smart strategy.
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Apr 6 2022 02:27pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 6 2022 03:19pm)
Oh yes, you have such an excellent bullshit detector that you believe "more Russians died than Us marines in Iwo Jima" in a month.

That would mean the Russians would have had to take ~8 thousand killed and another 20-30 thousand wounded at this point. That is only like 20% less than the numbers Ukraine is claiming, which are already over-exaggerated by several orders of magnitude.

What an incredible BS detector you have indeed. Want to buy some bridges for sale?


Let's see. One country has made it a crime to report information that contradicts the official government narrative, and the rest is the free world where they're subject to verifying the facts.

The phrase is "I have a bridge for sale." Maybe if you were an American, you'd know that.
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Apr 6 2022 02:27pm
Quote (ferdia @ 6 Apr 2022 21:23)
only a matter of time before the smog is gone. they are leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the planet in terms of moving to green.
but yes the smog in china is terrible.

They are constructing more new coal power plants than the rest of the world combined, lol.
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#3538
Apr 6 2022 02:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 6 2022 04:16pm)
what's confusing about the US warhack diplomats being talked down by American corporations greedy for cheaply made chinese goods?

in 2022 we call being pro-globalism a leftist idea, but the truth is both sides of the aisle yearned for MADE IN CHINA at half the cost goods, because thats what they were paid to think.

we created the chinese monster, made it better, then better, then better. china may as well be the 51st state that went on to betray us. we took them from a rice patty shit hole and turned them into a smog ridden factory dotted landscape shithole where the govt takes profits with an oversized rake and spent it on weapons and stealing our stuff. and we knew all along, and did nothing, to stock the shelves of walmart in the jurisdiction of every senator and house rep in the entire nation.


China was always going to blossom into a superpower. It was in their history with the dynasties. Sure we helped out with globalism, but they would of came up regardless. The sheer number of people they have under one language, one culture is scary. It's the same reason India will be a superpower one day.

What I'm talking about is like knowing what the future axis powers would be 50 years prior to it happening. If you know, then you can go to the Austro-Hungarians and try to chip them away from that axis. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't but if today Russia was in our camp we would be much better insulated from China threatening our hegemony.
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Apr 6 2022 02:29pm
Quote (ferdia @ Apr 6 2022 03:23pm)
only a matter of time before the smog is gone. they are leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the planet in terms of moving to green.
but yes the smog in china is terrible.


correct, i said 5+ years ago we would lose that race too unless we did something drastic. china is busy cornering future markets while the US spends time legislating trans people either onto a podium or into a 10 foot deep hole.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 6 2022 03:28pm)
China was always going to blossom into a superpower. It was in their history with the dynasties. Sure we helped out with globalism, but they would of came up regardless. The sheer number of people they have under one language, one culture is scary. It's the same reason India will be a superpower one day.

What I'm talking about is like knowing what the future axis powers would be 50 years prior to it happening. If you know, then you can go to the Austro-Hungarians and try to chip them away from that axis. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't but if today Russia was in our camp we would be much better insulated from China threatening our hegemony.


Brazil fits those criteria, and had it not been for scandals with burning the rainforest we'd have made them a super power too. the us invests elsewhere to make a small profit and in the process creates superpowers 100 years ahead of schedule. democratic capitalism is a snake that eats itself. we fucked up all for 200$ big as flat screen tvs.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 6 2022 02:31pm
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#3540
Apr 6 2022 02:29pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 6 Apr 2022 20:17)
Dude, you're the one acting like drones are somehow suddenly going to be a problem for Russian forces on the ground when it is the exact opposite of reality.

Do you have anything to say or should I just assume anything that comes outta your mouth isn't intended to make any coherent point and ignore you?


You are supporting rapes, lootings, and unarmed civilians massacres by spreading lies.
Once the elements will be completely irrefutable, crimes and war loss, then your shitmulti will magically disappear. End of story.
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