Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 18 Sep 2023 17:13)

A grovelling apology for a pointless war of choice; Disguised by gaslighting people into believing Russia had no choice.

I've heard of scraping the barrel but oh my god.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 18 2023 11:10am)

Btw i posted these link earlier, a sure source but... There's something to think about (in case you didnt figured it yourself...) :


https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

Russia - 12177, of which: destroyed: 8355, damaged: 489, abandoned: 454, captured: 2879

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html

Ukraine - 4441, of which: destroyed: 2993, damaged: 344, abandoned: 152, captured: 952


The amount of destroyed/captured equipements had great variation on the timeline of this Russian agression which is more or less slowly repealed atm. A partial collapse or a major change like the illegal bridge destruction are very possible.

We also don't have the global picture of the quality of the said equipement: typically russians captured alot of soviet era equipement at the start of the offensive, and very few western ones much later, (which some squizz are exposing like a trophy).

There's also a value difference: when you destroy 3 x S-400 systems this is like... 150-180 tanks value..

So:

- May have to find charts with time on abscissa (someone?)
- Have to focuse on specific equipements only.


^Molotox this was your answer





/e easy: Source is Oryx:
https://github.com/leedrake5/Russia-Ukraine




https://i.imgur.com/sIXosdq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qUcsHOu.jpg

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 18 2023 05:24pm)

Who actually watches MSM? I only watch strictly controlled state run media channels :lol:

Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 18 2023 05:10pm)

Btw i posted these link earlier, a sure source but... There's something to think about (in case you didnt figured it yourself...) :


https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

Russia - 12177, of which: destroyed: 8355, damaged: 489, abandoned: 454, captured: 2879

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html

Ukraine - 4441, of which: destroyed: 2993, damaged: 344, abandoned: 152, captured: 952


The amount of destroyed/captured equipements had great variation on the timeline of this Russian agression which is more or less slowly repealed atm. A partial collapse or a major change like the illegal bridge destruction are very possible.

We also don't have the global picture of the quality of the said equipement: typically russians captured alot of soviet era equipement at the start of the offensive, and very few western ones much later, (which some squizz are exposing like a trophy).

There's also a value difference: when you destroy 3 x S-400 systems this is like... 150-180 tanks value..

So:

- May have to find charts with time on abscissa (someone?)
- Have to focuse on specific equipements only.


^Molotox this was your answer


/e easy: Source is Oryx:
https://github.com/leedrake5/Russia-Ukraine


https://i.imgur.com/sIXosdq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qUcsHOu.jpg

Quote (ofthevoid @ 18 Sep 2023 17:39)

Oryx is Ukraine aligned source that's just propaganda. Central Europe has been nearly drained of all Soviet armaments and sent to Ukraine. There's little to no way for them to differentiate between what was actually used by Russia or Ukraine, so naturally they just ascribe the blown up soviet era hardware to Russia. No wonder you're so clueless about the real world, when you wholly rely on just propaganda that's aligned with what you wish to be true.

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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Sep 18 2023 11:52am)

Thinking of starting a pro Ukraine news website and just posting random nonsense and asking for donations, so many people making bank off this grift

Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 18 2023 12:57pm)

Hundreds of youtubers and other social media 'influencers' have this game on lockdown. Going to be tough sledding, very saturated market. It's the equivalent of starting a local brewery in 2023.

Imagine in 2022, the guy selling Slava Ukraini or Ukrainian flags on amazon is probably a millionaire now-- that was the peak.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 19 Sep 2023 00:01)

Haha I love scrolling down to their pre war videos and seeing the difference in views usually like 10k vs 500k per video.

Yeah the 2022 guy is laughing all the way to the bank.

Probably too late, I will start a "FREE TAIWAN" one to prep for the next