Except we do know that the vaccines are effective and safe.

Long-term side effects do not spontaneously happen years or decades later. They are virtually always visible in the short term and carry over. It's not like "Oh, 15 years out, yeah now you have liver cirrhosis". No, we can see it developing gradually from onset. So your concerns about long-term side effects are unfounded and relies on a fundamental lack of undestanding of how these things originate.

I got the vaccine, as did everybody outside of those 40,000 that were part of the clinical trials, after the experiments were over. So no, I wasn't a lab rat, and nobody else has been outside of those who were explicitly part of the clinical trials. All you have are easily disprovable lies. Not even issues of interpretation. These are lies that are so easy to disprove you can do it in 30 seconds on google.

I love how anybody who believes in evidence and science is just a government lap dog. I guess you have to have that as a coping mechanism when you believe something that's so easy to disprove. Stick around, you'll see me criticize the government constantly.

Even your own Government tells you that the vaccines can cause long-term side effects.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.html


https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/here-s-why-we-can-t-rush-covid-19-vaccine

Stop acting like there may not be some serious side effects, especially since the Big Tech companies are controlling all the information flow to us -- evident by the recent Wuhan Lab theory that is now being allowed to be discussed as a viable theory.

Brett Weinstein was the first one to bring this to my attention, not some conspiracy theorist.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/bret-weinstein-darkhorse-podcast/id1471581521

I was always adverse to the lockdowns and the media fear porn that we've been fed through the last 15 months, but this confirmed to me, having some experimental vaccine is not for me.

Good luck and I sincerely hope you and your family get through this time, regardless of my trolling here -- and our clear disagreement.

I can see why people see the viability in these vaccines, of course. We have eradicated many illnesses through the last 100 years.

I'm guessing sanity and cleanliness did a lot of that too.

I didn't claim that there are no long-term side effects. I said they would be apparent early on. They don't just suddenly appear years down the line.

We have safety data for the vaccines, and the vaccines are continually monitoried for adverse events. The Johnson and Johnson vaccine was shut down because SIX CASES OUT OF SIX MILLION had adverse reactions. If you don't think vaccine safety is taken dead serious by the FDA, then you are delusional.

I'm somewhat familiar with Weinstein, and he's not at all an expert in anything related to viruses, medical treatments, or epidemiology. He is not an expert you should take seriously with regards to Covid, because he is not an expert in any field relavent to Covid. He has done far more harm than good, and has been an active source of misinformation on the pandemic.

You have repeated propaganda in this conversation that comes directly from prominent sources of misinformation. The mRNA vaccine being "experimental", the side effects being unknown, you brought up the fertility issue.... I think you are getting your information from bad sources and not bothering to double check before you pass it on.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 5 2021 04:00am

Thanks for confirming that nothing changed

ya no chance they didnt just rubber stamp it "covid case" for a chaching. covidiot world been caught lying so many times any thing that comes out of it stands a high chance of being a load of bullchot it become reasonable to just dismiss it as fraud with out any more consideration.

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jul 5 2021 06:54am

"You're crazy to say someone deserves to die because they didn't get vaccinated."
(he is a leftie cut from the same cloth as those screaming in the streets Burning Looting and Murdering. uses flowery talk (deception) that is never backed up.

Lipstick on the same genocide pig now named "Covid"
https://www.bitchute.com/video/L0wUKTMEzRnD/

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jul 5 2021 06:55am

Thousands of (voluntarly) unvaccinated people died and will die like this. Do you think they deserve costly medical assistance ? I think NOT.

I am very curious of the next steps of Delta variant in US south/red states.

I think obese people, especially the french specimen above me, should not be getting any costly medical assistance at all, however vaccines should be free for them.
isn't it a good idea in an ideal world ?

well said my friend

i heard he got 6 vaccine doses and wears 6 masks alone outside (a rare event but it happens) and stays 6 meters away from any other human being.

hence he is sauceman6660006060606060666

Do you not have anti vaccine friends or family?