Quote (bogie160 @ 17 Sep 2023 13:59)

Why would Russia ever accept those conditions, though? They don't need to hold a referendum (Russia itself puts very little stock in elections), they possess those regions today. Your premise is that Russia must give up a lot for nothing lest they be rewarded, but that sentiment is clearly not something Russia cares about.

I thought I answered your question already. Russia is correct to say that peace must reflect realities on the ground. Those realities are unacceptable to Ukraine, therefore peace is neither possible nor actively desired by either party. When there is a genuine stalemate, they will need to negotiate, and that will likely mean accepting Russian control of most of the land they've seized.

Quote (Rastok21 @ 17 Sep 2023 15:37)

The West is very weakened and is very afraid that Russia will disintegrate. Therefore, Russia will survive and, moreover, the captured territories will remain with Russia. They will pay reparations and everything will calm down. But since Putin showed the tyrants that they can do whatever they want, evil people will continue his work. War It will begin in the East, I won’t say for sure, but perhaps China with India, or China with Taiwan, or Korea with North Korea. Then other countries will join and Kurushetr will begin. This is described in the Bible as the Apocalypse. And this will happen, since a lot of evil demonic souls are now incarnating on earth. They will begin to kill each other. And then the Golden Age will begin and the earth will become a paradise planet. This sounds like the notes of a madman, but remember, this will happen

Quote (Rastok21 @ 17 Sep 2023 21:37)

The West is very weakened and is very afraid that Russia will disintegrate. Therefore, Russia will survive and, moreover, the captured territories will remain with Russia. They will pay reparations and everything will calm down. But since Putin showed the tyrants that they can do whatever they want, evil people will continue his work. War It will begin in the East, I won’t say for sure, but perhaps China with India, or China with Taiwan, or Korea with North Korea. Then other countries will join and Kurushetr will begin. This is described in the Bible as the Apocalypse. And this will happen, since a lot of evil demonic souls are now incarnating on earth. They will begin to kill each other. And then the Golden Age will begin and the earth will become a paradise planet. This sounds like the notes of a madman, but remember, this will happen

Quote (Rastok21 @ 17 Sep 2023 15:50)

no, he is a very bad person. Hypocritical and stupid. When everyone said that there would be a war, he surrounded himself with traitors and thieves. He built roads and rammed the south of Ukraine so that the Russians could enter without problems. Unfortunately, all the presidents were bad. Thieves. BUT it’s his fault democracy, because people vote for populists who speak loudly but do nothing

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 17 Sep 2023 16:48)

Let me give you my thoughts.

The EU will be weaken but not the Entire West. 5 Eyes lead by the United States will still be fairly Robust and the United States will still be indomitable.

If Ukraine / West somehow wins ( which they will not ), the captured territories will be returned. It doesn't make sense that the they will allow Russia to pay reparations and not give back territories.
If the West decides to allow Russia to keep the conquered territories, it will be a blatant slap on the face of Ukrainians by breaking faith.
In 5 to 10 years times you will have Christian Terrorist in EU and USA just like Osama Bin Laden.

War in the East might not start with Taiwan, a conflict arsing from South China Seas with the Philippines ( which have security treaty with USA ) is more likely to start first with something small and escalate.

And you are taking a Judeo Christian Book of Revelation take on this whole situation which doesn't and will not bid well in this particular topic.

Please remember this and remember clearly. Christianity as brilliant and compassionate as it is, is not a universally accepted infallible dogma.
There are other cultures around the world who believes in different concepts of life and death and after life.

Long story short if I have to describe what you think will happen and believe in , I can only use this as an example. Not a good example , but an example.
the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBuoUH3AOlo

Quote (Meanwhile @ 17 Sep 2023 16:55)

So why did he stay instead of retiring with his millions in a safe place ?

Quote (Rastok21 @ 17 Sep 2023 21:55)

The Bible is composed of many true scriptures, and diluted with lies. To correspond to the local creator. I also mentioned Kurukshetra and when Kalki appears there will be hope. you think superficially and do not know what I know

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 17 Sep 2023 17:03)

Bro, now you are going into Hindusim.. Preferably you can make a new topic if you want to discuss that. Mixing religion with Geo Politics and the world at large might not be palatable for some on this particular thread.

Quote (Rastok21 @ 17 Sep 2023 16:00)

But because he has nowhere to go. They will get him everywhere, both in the west and in the east. He agreed in Oman to give up Ukraine, but ordinary people decided to fight. And all he had to do was obey and start playing a patriot, and since he is an actor, then he does it well. But those who are attentive can immediately see the deception. All ministers are thieves. The Minister of Defense bought chicken eggs three times more expensive than the market price and earned billions. And so on in everything