Quote (bogie160 @ 17 Sep 2023 13:59)
Why would Russia ever accept those conditions, though? They don't need to hold a referendum (Russia itself puts very little stock in elections), they possess those regions today. Your premise is that Russia must give up a lot for nothing lest they be rewarded, but that sentiment is clearly not something Russia cares about.
I thought I answered your question already. Russia is correct to say that peace must reflect realities on the ground. Those realities are unacceptable to Ukraine, therefore peace is neither possible nor actively desired by either party. When there is a genuine stalemate, they will need to negotiate, and that will likely mean accepting Russian control of most of the land they've seized.
the question wasn't "what kind of peace deal do you think is one that russia would accept" though. we both know that russia has no interest whatsoever in peace. they still think they can make all of ukraine their own, that's why they invaded in the first place. that's why all the pootlicker's talk of "tHe wEsT dOeSn'T wAnT pEaCe" is so dumb.
my question was what YOU PERSONALLY would consider a "fair compromise". i told you my version of it, so what would yours be? it's not particularly difficult to guess why you're so hesitant to answer that...