You're either too stupid to understand the nuance or arguing in bad faith.

"More fiscally conservative" or "less fiscally liberal" does not necessarily qualify a party as "fiscally conservative". You just mentioned a Republican plan to spend 600b on infrastructure... how are they doing it? Are they raising taxes and cutting spending somewhere? Is this another example of raising spending and hiking the deficit that somehow shows Republicans are fiscally conservative?

If you think raising spending and raising the deficit qualifies as fiscal conservatism because the other major party would increase both more, that logic makes no sense to me, and I'd like to see a single serious conservative who has argued that position.

With that math, you should just pay everyone in America $7000.

It doesn't fucking add up.

I’m not doing an actual Excel spreadsheet with math. I’m just responding to your claim
It’s EaSy Xxxx iS woRsE thAn Y!!

Depends what the revenue is...which is what everyone is trying to say except 1 person lol.

Depends what they're spent on. If it's 2 trillion on anime husbando body pillows, then the answer is obvious.

Increasing taxes doesn't fix the budget, it just makes politicians increase spending.

Look at history.

If that's the case, why did Congress and Clinton balance the budget? Revenue increased at a faster rate than expenditures.

I won't fault Trump or Biden for blowing up the deficit during COVID and I won't fault Bush and Obama for blowing it up during the Great Recession. That's what you're supposed to do.

I WILL blame Trump and Congress for decreasing the rate of revenue increases...especially when the economy was fantastic. When the economy does well, revenue tends to increase.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/federal-receipt-and-outlay-summary

Download the Excel doc and plot the revenue over time. You'll notice that the rate of growth is substantially different. Now plot spending.
The deficit started to shrink under Obama because spending was relatively stable for the most part. Spending increase at a higher rate under Trump even before COVID. Republicans used to be the hard-working dad who kept the purse tight. Now, they are the alcoholic father who is bad at his job and spends all his money on shit he can't afford.

Clinton balanced the budget because entitlements are a ticking time bomb. The unfunded liabilities grow exponentially while tax revenue grows with diminished returns, but the unfunded liabilities of SS were lower back then because boomers were younger.

So obtuse. Fiscal conservatism doesn't mean that spending is zero. This may be news to you but republican legislators were funding social services, having parks built, building roads through debt. The 600b package would be funded by whatever is collected in taxes and then the rest would be debt but the standard for fiscal conservatism is not 0 deficit, that's just your idiotic imposition that isn't based on anything empirical.

I've explained the nuance to you about half a dozen times now. The way to get to balance budgets or fiscal responsibility or whatever is to lower both of the levels of spending and taxation according to fiscal conservatism. These are fundamental principles that have been part of the republican party for decades and what makes up the backbone of fiscal conservatism. Evident in dozens of spending packages we can go through one by one.

Imagine being so dense to believe that higher taxes could be a tenant of what makes up fiscal conservatism if we play with some what-if. It's like we live in the upside down.

Like open your eyes and do some basic research go read through some of the past budgets. Go read what each party proposed.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 28 2021 07:54pm

I think you should open your eyes and read what's being typed, because you didn't respond to what IceMage wrote, and proceeded to straw man the hell out of him on basically every level.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 28 2021 08:02pm