Can't wait for unilateral and complete suppression of your medicare / medicaid (not sure about the name) tho.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 18 2020 01:08am

Trump is not an alpha he only plays one in television.

Bill Clinton wasn't an alpha, neither was Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was a sociologist and was called The Great Communicator because if his intuitive way of meeting the needs of his citizens. Bill Clinton is a lover not a fighter obviously. HW Bush was an intellectual, head of the CIA and a spymaster more or less. Jimmy Carter the alpha? Gerald Ford? He was so milquetoast. Richard Nixon, the President Trump is most like, was a paranoid criminal who couldn't keep talented people around him and had to hand with Spiro Agnews like Trump does with his Manaforts and his family who has been selling access to the president etc.

So you are categorically wrong sir. We haven't had an alpha since probably Lyndon Johnson, who by all accounts was a pure bastard and the son of the devil. He would make people listen to him while he addressed them, while taking a shit. When we studied communication by proximics he came up lot by the way he would just eyeball people like they were things when they were talking to him. He was the last alpha in the White House by my estimates.


It's crazy that so many men cannot tell the difference between the real deal and the fake. Trump being called alpha is a symptom of the pussification of the European-American man in my opinion. Dudes need to start camping and hunting again or something.

This post was edited by Skinned on Feb 18 2020 05:39am

They should start by cutting out that virtue signalling political correctness woke BS first, then go from there

I'm probably the least politically correct person on this board. To demonstrate I'll call you a fag right now. My inbox is literally full of suspension notifications for calling a spade a spade. Do I regret that my comment might make homosexual people fell uncomfortable? Yes, but that's not exactly what I'm saying about you right now. Obviously you're a little bundle of wood

This post was edited by Skinned on Feb 18 2020 06:20am

I loved how you posted that you told your female subordinates that the weinstein case proved that all men are shit and that these females could come to you to tell you all about it. You thereby indicating that all men are trash except you, of course. Talking about virtue signalling

I said that some people are predators and that it is important to report them because they are true.

Is that really how you interpreted what I said? Holy cognitive distortion! NO WONDER YOU ARE SO TRIGGERED FROM THAT YOU BRING IT UP WEEKS LATER.

We had a licensed independent chemical dependency counselor who was fired for sexual harassment, inappropriate billing, and using hospital space for private business and referrals. He did shitty things to several coworkers before he was terminated. There are people like that at every work site, men and women. My comment to her wasn't that men are scum Djunior, it was that the world is not a nice place, and that she grew up in the suburbs, was probably never assaulted or arrested or even harassed by the police, probably never thought about killing herself or cutting herself to feel better, that she was probably an extremely sheltered individual. During the internship she was grabbed, she was flashed, she was punched in the face so hard that she landed three steps behind her fucking shoes bro. I ended my workday yesterday laying on the ground holding onto someone's leg until we could get a medical bed to strap them into and some shots of haldol and ativan an hour after my quit time.

You need to warn a bitch. I would tell you the same thing if you were coming into my world for the first time. The Weinstein thing was on at the time, its all true, and that should be scary to you.

The hairs on the back of your neck are there for a reason: Trust them. The Weinstein thing is a good teachable moment that Nice and Good are not the same, and that some people will be evil while smiling to you and charming you.

I never said men are bad. I'm a man, most of my friends are men, and I spend all my free time around other men except for my wife. I think masculinity is being challenged in ways we don't quite understand and that makes us uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable anyway.

This post was edited by Skinned on Feb 18 2020 06:37am

I think we just have a different idea of what an alpha is. An alpha, as I understand it, is someone who's able to rise to a dominant/leadership position and impose his will on others; always within the context of a particular social environment, say a peer group. One does not have to be a fighter or physically (or intellectually) impressive to be an alpha in this sense.

Obama was an alpha because he was a master at getting the support of society's functional elites, and the media in particular. He ran a tight ship while in the White House, there was never a question that he's in charge. Clinton was a master at winning over people with his charisma. HW Bush was an alpha within the context of his agency-environment. Reagan also had a lot of charisma that made people voluntarily follow his lead, he was also a very strong communicator and good at selling political ideas. Nixon was a masterful strategist and schemer, and more driven than any of his competitors.

I agree that Carter and Ford were not really alphas, but they both essentially came into office because of Watergate. W Bush was not really an alpha, but he ran against an even bigger dweeb in 2000 and narrowly defeated him. Compared to Gore, he was more of an alpha still. Four years later, he edged out reelection against a very wooden challenger while still benefitting from his post-9/11 rally-around-the-flag high.

Trump is an alpha in the sense that he is constantly imposing his will on others, despite meeting massive resistance all along the way. He was able to gather a strong and loyal following, and to force his detractors to begrudgingly follow his lead (e.g. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Lindsay Graham) or to leave the battlefield (Paul Ryan, James Comey, Jeff Flake). Sure, he loses some battles, but he's fighting all the time and winning far more often than not; and until now, he has won every time when it really mattered. I'll have to admit that Trump's method is rather toxic, he rises above others by denigrating and dragging them down rather than by elevating himself or rising to the occasion... but still, in the end, he's always standing tall.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 18 2020 06:40am

Your definition makes every politician an alpha no matter what.

As Skinned says, battered wives.

Lol what? My definition doesnt make every politician an alpha. See the cases I already mentioned: Cruz, Rubio, Graham, Ryan, Flake, also think of Jeb Bush. Even in the realm of national politics, there are clearly those who lead and those who follow.
But to become president, you usually have to be an alpha (or benefit from rare and special circumstances*) though, and that was my whole point.



*running against an even bigger dweeb like Bush did in 2000 against Gore, or benefitting from the aftershocks of a huge scandal like Carter did in 76.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 18 2020 07:10am

Your definition makes them the 1% of alphaness and you are just quibbling about whos the alpha of alpha. They all rise and push their will on others, just not each other all the time.

I dont think Trump or Obama were alphas. I largely agree with Skinneds analysis.