They fucked around and now they're finding out. Their mistake was thinking that they could poke the bear and uncle Sam would protect them but sadly the west is dead so we're sending thoughts and prayers instead of boots on the ground

Nah, this is just Putinism aka Ruscism, growing more and more, like a tumor, which ended up in pushing toward multiple agressions.
They could clearly have join EU at the end but they refused because they wanted to keep their wealth, power, monopolies and priviledges over the russian people.

Why do you hate the russian people ?

I much prefer Stephen Kotkins explanation that Americans don't really ever think about Russia, unless they have to.
While Russia's regime permanently thinks and talks about the US because it requires an external enemy to deflect from internal shortcomings; And also to appear more relevant on a global stage.

Everything Russia does is about its internal dynamic. Its the same for any authoritarian regime. NATO or the US was never coming for Russia, although the Arab spring and removal of Saddam may have focused the mind of Putin; The main threat to the regime is internal fracturing.

This is in his book apparently:

https://direct.mit.edu/isec/article-abstract/46/1/196/102851/The-Power-of-Putin-in-Russian-Foreign-Policy

"McFaul recognizes that power and regime-type variables affect Russia's international behavior, the heavy causal lifting is done by Putin's illiberal conservatism and anti-Western mindset."

Anti-Western & conservative narrative being the best excuse ever to increase authoritarianism and oppress your own people.

Bolded sentence - do you truly not see the irony here? This describes the USA/EU perfectly

What is ironic? I might agree with your statement.

The reason why no one takes you or your comments seriously on this board is because of your overuse of yhe terms pootlicker,rucisst,putinism or any other racist term you can come up with.

Most users in this thread understand the complexity of this war and realize that American meddling in russias backdoor directly led to russias retaliation. I for one am not pro putin or Russia but I understand why they are at war and innocent Ukrainians are paying with their lives so Blackrock can make bank once again in a war torn country that uncle Sam helped make only this time no direct American casualties. The art of war

It's also just objectively wrong. The US, at least people in the government think about Russia a tremendous amount. It's like we didn't live through years of literally Russia collusion being spammed 24/7. It's also evident with us pulling more and more countries into NATO for the last 20 years with no other reason than to counter Russia. We literally had a presidential candidate (Hillary) blame Russia for losing the election and interfering.

Even today, listen to the average speech by Biden on why inflation is happening. Russia! We haven't externalized this much blame to a single country in a really long time. But sure, we don't think about them. Republicans with China are giving the Russia boogey man a run for their money that's for sure.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Sep 15 2023 03:04pm

The average American doesn't give a shit about Russia.

The average Russian can't help but obsess about the US or NATO.

The mormon at it

https://twitter.com/i/status/1702647094949876025

To be honest i don't like the US arrogance but geographical proximity is everything and Ukraine is not that far away. Even Moscow.



Never said "pootlicker" btw.

Ruscism is a very good word and very well documented in wikipedia. It is a mix of Russification and Fascism, you can name it, describe it precisely. We all know what it is. We all here understand the meaning.

=> Anti-Western & conservative narrative being the best excuse ever to increase authoritarianism and oppress your own people.

It's about the less evil. Which side does not jail or kill people for their ideas ? Which side managed to remove ALOT of the corruption and performs better ? It ends here, game over.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 15 2023 03:24pm