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Sep 14 2023 11:17am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 14 2023 07:00pm)
Russia is essentially a vassal of China now, don't spin reality any more than you already have.
All the while Crimea is on fire, why don't you just support Russians leaving? You want peace right?


Wait what, Crimea already "burnt to a crisp" right? Your words, months ago

But then again, same time you told us that Russia had pulled out of fortress Bakhmut which means that Ukraine is now fighting for a city they never lost. Spectacular
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Sep 14 2023 11:20am
Quote (Djunior @ 14 Sep 2023 18:57)
How it started: Smart people warning that sanctions and isolation policy + supporting Ukraine with weapons delivery after weapons delivery might push Russia into China's camp

How it's going: Russia befriended China, Iran and now North Korea

I get that you're mad, Biden administration and their Euro allies are kneecapping themselves in spectacular fashion

Russia has already been in China's camp for years, the war in Ukraine only made it official (and turned them into their vassal once and for all). Likewise, Russia and Iran had friendly relations for years if not decades, based on their mutual authoritarianism and distaste for the West.

Truth be told, Russia and China both suck. They deserve each other.
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Sep 14 2023 11:20am
Quote (Djunior @ 14 Sep 2023 19:12)
I didn't quote him but if you want me to address that, it's completely clear that its the combination of battle injuries + slava Ukraine. There's nothing to celebrate and he didn't post it to celebrate Ukrainian casualties
But you know that

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 14 Sep 2023 19:09)
Slava Ukraini* you uncultured swine!


There's nothing wrong in listing the amount of weapons russia lost, especially when these weapons are targetting civilians building or infrastructures which is the case.
Btw another two naval ships got damaged today;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_patrol_ship_Vasily_Bykov

Yes +2, today, along with the S-400 triumph and the ship+submarine yesterday.
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Sep 14 2023 11:21am
Quote (Djunior @ Sep 14 2023 06:12pm)
I didn't quote him but if you want me to address that, it's completely clear that its the combination of battle injuries + slava Ukraine. There's nothing to celebrate and he didn't post it to celebrate Ukrainian casualties

But you know that


False.

Quote (Djunior @ Sep 14 2023 06:17pm)
Wait what, Crimea already "burnt to a crisp" right? Your words, months ago

But then again, same time you told us that Russia had pulled out of fortress Bakhmut which means that Ukraine is now fighting for a city they never lost. Spectacular


Bring an argument to the table or don't quote me again.
Just make it an argument we haven't crushed a dozen times already :D

All you bring currently is ad hominem and your projected disappointment in Russias military failures.

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Sep 14 2023 11:23am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 14 2023 06:20pm)
There's nothing wrong in listing the amount of weapons russia lost, especially when these weapons are targetting civilians building or infrastructures which is the case.
Btw another two naval ships got damaged today;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_patrol_ship_Vasily_Bykov

Yes +2, today, along with the S-400 triumph and the ship+submarine yesterday.


Expensive week for the Ruskis :mellow:
Sales of Russian anti air tech won't be booming anytime soon.
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Sep 14 2023 11:24am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 14 2023 07:20pm)
There's nothing wrong in listing the amount of weapons russia lost, especially when these weapons are targetting civilians building or infrastructures which is the case.
Btw another two naval ships got damaged today;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_patrol_ship_Vasily_Bykov

Yes +2, today, along with the S-400 triumph and the ship+submarine yesterday.


Ukraine has basically lost it's entire navy

Now Ukraine is being supplied with US speedboats that they used many times and the boats are being blown out of the water killing entire landing parties that were on board.

Ukraine is being hit every single day, I could post shit like that every single day.
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Sep 14 2023 11:27am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 14 2023 07:21pm)
False.



Bring an argument to the table or don't quote me again.
Just make it an argument we haven't crushed a dozen times already :D

All you bring currently is ad hominem and your projected disappointment in Russias military failures.


SMH

Read what I said above to your buddy Meanwhile

I could post about Ukrainian losses every single day. I don't, YOU are the guys gloating over battlefield losses and YOU guys bring nothing to the table in terms of discussion.

And you can't because NATO started this in 2008 and this fact cannot be denied. Sucks for you huh
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Sep 14 2023 11:36am
Quote (Djunior @ Sep 14 2023 06:27pm)
SMH

Read what I said above to your buddy Meanwhile

I could post about Ukrainian losses every single day. I don't, YOU are the guys gloating over battlefield losses and YOU guys bring nothing to the table in terms of discussion.

And you can't because NATO started this in 2008 and this fact cannot be denied. Sucks for you huh


Russia supplied separatists in the Donbass that triggered the conflict there. Not to mention there meddling and attempt to bring Ukraine into its sphere of influence.
You said yourself Russia was planning for this war for years. I mean, you also said they were unprepared.
Truth be told you say a lot but impart very little.

Do as you like. But this is a Ukraine/Russia thread. If you don't want to hear about Russian military losses then don't read here? Simple as that.
Don't come here to complain about it just because you claim not to post anything about Ukraine's losses, which you have done countless times.
When Ukraine retreated from Bakhmut you tagged us all in some kind of pyrrhic celebration :lol: Which might I add is a very strange thing to celebrate considering 20,000 or more Russians may have died in that battle alone.

You clearly think Russia deserves a sphere of influence but your too embarrassed to say that without having excuses for why Russia invaded. Just say that and stand by it, it would make you appear less weak.
For someone that claims to argue geopolitically you certainly have a lot of hurt feelings.

Quote (Djunior @ Sep 14 2023 06:36pm)
Not long ago you were telling us that the EU market is so important for Russia, you used to post oil / gas revenue statistics to prove your point that it's all about the EU and Russia was going down the drain if they lost the EU market.

Reality is that Russia is now fully focusing on other markets and making efforts to improve relations with countries like China, Iran and NK and if you followed the news the last days the West aint particularly happy about it.


Imagine being so desperate as to turn to NK, and you don't even see the desperation.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Sep 14 2023 11:39am
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 14 2023 07:20pm)
Russia has already been in China's camp for years, the war in Ukraine only made it official (and turned them into their vassal once and for all). Likewise, Russia and Iran had friendly relations for years if not decades, based on their mutual authoritarianism and distaste for the West.

Truth be told, Russia and China both suck. They deserve each other.


Not long ago you were telling us that the EU market is so important for Russia, you used to post oil / gas revenue statistics to prove your point that it's all about the EU and Russia was going down the drain if they lost the EU market.

Reality is that Russia is now fully focusing on other markets and making efforts to improve relations with countries like China, Iran and NK and if you followed the news the last days the West aint particularly happy about it.
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Sep 14 2023 11:40am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 14 2023 07:36pm)
Russia supplied separatists in the Donbass that triggered the conflict there. Not to mention there meddling and attempt to bring Ukraine into its sphere of influence.
You said yourself Russia was planning for this war for years. I mean, you also said they were unprepared.
Truth be told you say a lot but impart very little.

Do as you like. But this is a Ukraine/Russia thread. If you don't want to hear about Russian military losses then don't read here? Simple as that.
Don't come here to complain about it just because you claim not to post anything about Ukraine's losses, which you have done countless times.
When Ukraine retreated from Bakhmut you tagged us all in some kind of pyrrhic celebration :lol: Which might I add is a very strange thing to celebrate considering 20,000 or more Russians may have died in that battle alone.

You clearly think Russia deserves a sphere of influence but your too embarrassed to say that without having excuses for why Russia invaded. Just say that and stand by it, it would make you appear less weak.
For someone that claims to argue geopolitically you certainly have a lot of hurt feelings.


Stop framing quotes of mine from different discussions and more that a year between those, #dishonesty

It's clear that they prepared after 2008, you can still find all the info online but you know that

The only reason Ukraine didn't fall was thousands and thousands of Javelins, NLAWs and Stingers immediately and by now likely hundreds of billions worth of aid

But again, you know that

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This post was edited by Djunior on Sep 14 2023 11:52am
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