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Sep 14 2023 07:45am
Quote (said_aouita @ Sep 14 2023 07:57am)
Who are the Jewish president and Muslim defense minister going to lock up in their concentration camps?


Ukrainians of course. Quick reminder that all ethnic jews have left the country (while not having to serve in the war they created) but their Jewish leader will happily destroy Ukraine down to the last citizen so Blackrock can earn their 3 trillion dollar fee
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Sep 14 2023 07:46am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 14 Sep 2023 15:37)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_2023_Kostiantynivka_missile_strike
In the morning of 6 September 2023, the Russian military launched a missile strike on an open market in downtown Kostiantynivka, Ukraine. The strike, which deliberately targeted civilians, left 15 people dead, including a child, and an elderly couple in their 50s who were selling flowers on the market, and 35 wounded.[1][2][3][4][5][6]

You actively supported the idea it was an Ukrainian attack.



I gave you a quote by an investigative journalist of German BILD who is massively on the Ukranian side (open his Twitter lol) casting doubt on the official version spread by the Ukranians themselves.

We furthermore discussed that quoting Wikipedia in hotly contested topics is rather futile attempt as it is being constantly vandalized.

This alone should have made you think. But it didn’t, alas.

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Anything wrong with these statements? Ukranians are still massively outnumbered. German tanks didn’t really turn the tide massively it seems.

There is a good passage about Finland there that I wrote and it got lost. I’m actually really interested in the opinion of Neptunus on it.
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Sep 14 2023 07:48am
Quote (Malopox @ 19 Apr 2023 00:41)



I would like to draw a historical parallel with your homeland - Finland. Russians have “liberated” Finland from Sweden in early 19th century and kept it as a relatively autonomous region (Grand Duchy) for almost a hundred years. Finns were relatively free to govern themselves, kept their language, traditions and autonomy. Only when Russians tried to integrated/assimilate finns in the beginning of the 20th century by forcing Russian language / reducing autonomy - did the troubles start. Please correct me if I’m wrong as I might be grossly oversimplifying a hundred years of history.

You could argue the same parallels for Ukraine were a region which could have been granted autonomy due to its historical roots and political closeness with whomever they wanted to associate with. Instead an official language they barely spoke was being forced on them, their autonomy revoked, their democratically elected president overthrown by a foreign power. As a Finn - I’m sure that would piss you off is somebody would overthrow your government in Helsinki and try to align with Russia right now.

The developments we have seen and the recent revelations by eg Mrs Nuland cast doubts on whether the choice was truly of the people - or the people were being manipulated by somebody playing their own game for their own good.

After all - the bloodiest conflict of 2022 was not Ukraine/Russia - yet we hear almost nothing about that war as neither Russia, nor China nor US have any strategic interest in Tigray.

/edit: typos


Hey if you are still reading this, I wrote this a while back, but it got lost under pages and pages of bullshit.

Honestly interested on your opinion on this from the Finnish side.
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Sep 14 2023 07:48am
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Ukrainians of course. Quick reminder that all ethnic jews have left the country (while not having to serve in the war they created) but their Jewish leader will happily destroy Ukraine down to the last citizen so Blackrock can earn their 3 trillion dollar fee


Yea many Jewish women and children have left ukraine. I'm sure the invasion has NOTHING to do with it.....ffs.

Jewish men are serving.
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/01/1126217137/jewish-ukrainian-father-son-soldiers-russia-war

This post was edited by said_aouita on Sep 14 2023 07:50am
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Hey ^Neptunus if you are still reading this, I wrote this a while back, but it got lost under pages and pages of bullshit.

Honestly interested on your opinion on this from the Finnish side.


C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

sorry just helping out.

/edit oh man i was too slow.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 14 2023 07:49am
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Sep 14 2023 07:58am
34,000 replies and not one convincing argument to justify Russias needless war.

The consequence is this "your a nazi" blame game.
The irony is Russia has one of the largest far right contingents within its own borders, just ask the families of gay men rounded up and killed in the Russian federation for decades.
And further it supports countless far right parties in Europe.

Talk about scraping the barrel.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Sep 14 2023 07:59am
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 14 Sep 2023 15:58)
34,000 replies and not one convincing argument to justify Russias needless war.

The consequence is this "your a nazi" blame game.
The irony is Russia has one of the largest far right contingents within its own borders, just ask the families of gay men rounded up and killed in the Russian federation for decades.
And further it supports countless far right parties in Europe.

Talk about scraping the barrel.


it's outright shocking to me how many people who DON'T get paid by the kremlin, and who DO have access to the internet, just uncritically run with such obvious propaganda narratives. and not just some partisan hacks in the US, who were conditioned by fucker carlson, but people from ireland, germany, china...
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Sep 14 2023 08:06am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 14 Sep 2023 15:58)
34,000 replies and not one convincing argument to justify Russias needless war.

The consequence is this "your a nazi" blame game.
The irony is Russia has one of the largest far right contingents within its own borders, just ask the families of gay men rounded up and killed in the Russian federation for decades.
And further it supports countless far right parties in Europe.

Talk about scraping the barrel.


Man, stop reading wikipedia, MSM fake news, watch this 3 hours video with Joe Rogan instead ! Real truth inthere. Naziiiii
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Sep 14 2023 08:16am
The goof troop is coping hard today
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Sep 14 2023 08:20am
Quote (said_aouita @ Sep 14 2023 09:48am)
Yea many Jewish women and children have left ukraine. I'm sure the invasion has NOTHING to do with it.....ffs.

Jewish men are serving.
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/01/1126217137/jewish-ukrainian-father-son-soldiers-russia-war


From your link:

"A lot of buses arrived with Russian citizens who came to vote for leaving Ukraine and joining Russia. We knew we could not go along with this. It went against our conscience, our values and our loyalty to our fellow Ukrainian citizens."

How do you do my fellow Ukrainian citizens? Don't mind the details goy, your trany just gave you your new marching orders.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1701894681951428610
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