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Sep 12 2023 01:19pm
Quote (babun1024 @ 12 Sep 2023 20:59)
Hindu is probably the oldest civilization. All modern mice can be traced DNA wise back to a mouse family from India from 10000 years ago. Mouse = corn or grain storage. The Brits reduced them to what they are today but not even mongols or all Chinese dynasties could conquer India.

He can't be the solution for the US though. Hindus are the most peaceful and conservative people on planet earth. Any other nation would've had countless wars under the conditions they're living but not them. Democrats need a Mexican president with a cartel past :lol:


It's about who his voters are; he's not white, and he's not Christian. And for Democrats: he's anti-LGBT, anti-abortion, and wants to pardon Trump...

If I had to choose which one is killing him politically, it would be: "He pledged, if elected, to fire 75% of federal employees."

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Sep 12 2023 02:44pm
Vivek unfortunately would have troubles winning the general election due to his race and religion.

It's just how it tends to work. Being a woman made Hillary perform poorer than she likely would have if she wasn't a woman. That's why the DNC put in a white man as their puppet this time (they rigged it against Sanders, the rightful democratic nominee, because he's an overt communist)
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Sep 12 2023 03:16pm
Quote (El1te @ 13 Sep 2023 04:44)
Vivek unfortunately would have troubles winning the general election due to his race and religion.

It's just how it tends to work. Being a woman made Hillary perform poorer than she likely would have if she wasn't a woman. That's why the DNC put in a white man as their puppet this time (they rigged it against Sanders, the rightful democratic nominee, because he's an overt communist)


This is the truth.
Let me know your thoughts, although the election of Obama was historical, it was also the fuse and triggered that caused the US to go on a downward spiral.
It started from there, not Trump.
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Quote (El1te @ Sep 12 2023 04:44pm)
Vivek unfortunately would have troubles winning the general election due to his race and religion.

It's just how it tends to work. Being a woman made Hillary perform poorer than she likely would have if she wasn't a woman. That's why the DNC put in a white man as their puppet this time (they rigged it against Sanders, the rightful democratic nominee, because he's an overt communist)


No way to rule out Hillary being a women possibly played a role in her not doing well but the bigger thing with her is she was just a pretty shitty and toxic candidate. There was just too much negative baggage with her.
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Sep 12 2023 03:23pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 13 Sep 2023 05:17)
No way to rule out Hillary being a women possibly played a role in her not doing well but the bigger thing with her is she was just a pretty shitty and toxic candidate. There was just too much negative baggage with her.


If Vivek gets the nomination, I guarantee you the world will be having a go at the United States.
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Sep 12 2023 03:38pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Sep 12 2023 02:16pm)
This is the truth.
Let me know your thoughts, although the election of Obama was historical, it was also the fuse and triggered that caused the US to go on a downward spiral.
It started from there, not Trump.


I agree that Obama & his administration lit the fuse to self-destruction in the USA, due to his abhorrent policy & racist rhetoric.

I think Obama was elected because he was very proper, well spoken, rational, etc. He also is only half black (and half white) which made him more electable - although, people in the USA are less racist against blacks than most people think. Black Americans are considered 100% American, unlike Vivek who would be interpreted as an Indian immigrant (a foreigner)

Obama is like Tom DuBois from The Boondocks, very much "white" culturally
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I agree that Obama & his administration lit the fuse to self-destruction in the USA, due to his abhorrent policy & racist rhetoric.

I think Obama was elected because he was very proper, well spoken, rational, etc. He also is only half black (and half white) which made him more electable - although, people in the USA are less racist against blacks than most people think. Black Americans are considered 100% American, unlike Vivek who would be interpreted as an Indian immigrant (a foreigner)

Obama is like Tom DuBois from The Boondocks, very much "white" culturally


This is rather realistic, my Ex Prime Minister talked about this situation in Singapore about 25 years back.
In my country the Top office holder is the Prime Minister but we do have a President.

We had Indian, Malay, Chinese and Eurasian Presidents but our Prime Minister has always been Ethnic Chinese.

He once say this or something similar " As long as the majority of the population is of a certain race, it will be difficult for some in the society to accept another race as the top office holder no matter how inclusive we want it to be, even if he is extremely competent because of the interest involved. "
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Sep 12 2023 04:01pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 12 2023 01:44pm)
Vivek unfortunately would have troubles winning the general election due to his race and religion.

It's just how it tends to work. Being a woman made Hillary perform poorer than she likely would have if she wasn't a woman. That's why the DNC put in a white man as their puppet this time (they rigged it against Sanders, the rightful democratic nominee, because he's an overt communist)


you know that communism =/= socialism? actually you probably dont :rofl:
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Quote (gnarjay @ Sep 12 2023 03:01pm)
you know that communism =/= socialism? actually you probably dont :rofl:


Communism is the utopian ideal (fiction), while socialism is the praxis that people undertake in attempts to achieve said utopia. So yes, they are the same thing. And communists like you attempting to argue otherwise doesn't work on me - find someone more ignorant!

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Sep 12 2023 02:45pm)
This is rather realistic, my Ex Prime Minister talked about this situation in Singapore about 25 years back.
In my country the Top office holder is the Prime Minister but we do have a President.

We had Indian, Malay, Chinese and Eurasian Presidents but our Prime Minister has always been Ethnic Chinese.

He once say this or something similar " As long as the majority of the population is of a certain race, it will be difficult for some in the society to accept another race as the top office holder no matter how inclusive we want it to be, even if he is extremely competent because of the interest involved. "


I think it is very much true that to be elected in any nation you have to be a member of said nation's tribe. And America is a pretty damn big tribe, but it's a tribe nonetheless. Americans are an Anglo-Christian tribe, with the Anglo-Christian naming convention.

Taking Vivek as an example. His name is Vivek Ramaswamy. His last name is not of the American tribe, it is of the Indian tribe. And his first name, Vivek, cannot even be spelled properly in the American tribal language (American English) - it is pronounced Vivake, but spelled Vivek (in the English language this is pronounced "Viveck"). This irrationality causes internal discord in someone reading his name who isn't a member of his tribe.
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