Bolsonaro bad, viva Lula

Now Lula bad?

US President Joe Biden explained the absence of a direct condemnation of Russian aggression against Ukraine in the G20 declaration adopted over the weekend.
Source: Biden at a press conference in Vietnam on 10 September reported by European Pravda
Details: Biden was answering the question of why Russia was not named as an aggressor in the final declaration of the G20 countries and whether this issue was problematic in relations with the Global South.

Quote: "It’s not a wedge issue of the Global South."

He said that "it’s a wedge issue with Russia, which was present, and with China, which had the representation."
"And so — and, by the way, I am a — my — my team, my staff still meets with President Xi’s people and his Cabinet," Biden added.

He also said that at the meeting in India, the G20 leaders discussed Russia's brutal and illegal war in Ukraine.
"And there was sufficient agreement in the room on the need for a just — for a just and lasting peace that upholds the principles of the U.N. Charter and respects sovereignty and territorial integrity," Biden said.




Lula bad clown, Bolsonaro super bad and dangerous.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 11 2023 01:19pm

https://europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/3092

77% agree that the EU should accept Ukrainians travelling abroad because of the war.
Economic sanctions against Russia for the war are supported by 71%.
Approximately two-thirds of respondents believe the EU should support Ukraine on its path to European integration and integration into the single market – 67% and 65%, respectively.
65% approve of financial and economic support for Ukraine.
57% believe that the EU should continue to support the purchase of weapons and ammunition for Ukraine and help with military training.

Interesting that EU is getting divided on the issue of external politics. Also interesting to compare this to 2022 barometer on the same issues.

Surveys can be easily manipulated based on framing of the question. Using positive words like "solidarity" plays a big role in how people perceive the question and respond.

I think what would be more telling is asking questions that are a bit more nuanced. For example asking if sanctions should be maintained even though at least some have a material negative effect on said country.

That type of question level sets instead of basically steering the one answering into the 'positive' response.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Sep 12 2023 08:09am

Yes, I understand as well that framing of the question decides how a “normal” person will answer it and data is then can be spun to support a narrative. We have yearly engagement surveys full of framed questions that ultimately mean nothing.

It’s more about finding the “divisive” “outliers” in the visuals and thinking what causes them instead of delving over framed questions and taking them as proof of “universal” support.

Doesn't sounds divided to me, CZ/SK/EL/CY/HU don't have a big voice here, nor are representing alot of people. They are also pretty much not that frankly against assistance.

Btw wft Portugal... Maybe because of this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B3nio_de_Oliveira_Salazar

https://icds.ee/en/former-kremlin-official-putins-russia-moving-towards-salazars-portugal/ (2015 already...)

Major EU (Council) decisions require unanimity of votes so any division steers politics off course.

This post was edited by Malopox on Sep 12 2023 08:20am

Supposed to...

https://i.imgur.com/B55fUxC.png

The effort seems clearly engaged for a while.

It's a survey on the whole population, including undeducated (falling to populism and not holding high positions). I didnt check if it was done on voters only.

Btw i think the more Ukraine ascends over Putin's Russia... The more rats will leave the boat, leverage effect.

Luckily Europe is still a democracy so all citizens get the right to vote, even the uneducated and the likes of you.

Nobody sees this “ascension” you talk of - instead things are going pretty terribly for Ukraine with no clear end in sight. Winter is almost here making any counteroffensive impossible and next years elections in the US threaten to jeopardize their foreign support.