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Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 10 2023 10:17pm)
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We are in september, so roughtly 3 months to wait for the 1500 T90s confirmation. It's fine, everything will be fine.

Any idea what happened to the T-14 Armata btw ? Why not 1500 of these ?


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Quote (Djunior @ Sep 10 2023 08:29pm)
There's no doubt that Russia is ramping up production of literally everything. I don't get that people think that it won't happen, Putin recently doubled the 2023 defense budget. And North Korea has massive munitions production facilities believe it or not.

About tank losses and production, old tanks that were lost are now being replaced by brand new T90s for the most part. Medvedev stated that Russia will produce 1500 tanks this year, not 200.

Brand new article September 10 2023 https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-turning-ally-north-korea-resupply-arsenal-war-103062142

Talks about munitions, NK, tanks, drones, glide bombs, you should check it out


Point out where T14 Armata was mentioned
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Sep 10 2023 02:26pm
https://www.technology.org/2023/04/09/russia-will-not-be-able-to-produce-1500-main-battle-tanks-per-year/

Just a single article but 1500 tanks a year doesn't seem realistic apparently.
Even if it was attainable, having more tanks at the beginning of the war didn't help Russia accomplish stated objectives; We saw that where columns of tanks got taken out by withering ATGM fire.

Also, arguing that because the Soviets produced 80,000 T-34's in the 70 years that it existed including the second world war, somehow proves that Russia could produce 1500 T-90's is not really a valid argument.

Different tanks, different times, different supply chains.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Sep 10 2023 02:28pm
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 10 Sep 2023 22:26)
https://www.technology.org/2023/04/09/russia-will-not-be-able-to-produce-1500-main-battle-tanks-per-year/

Just a single article but 1500 tanks a year doesn't seem realistic apparently.
Even if it was attainable, having more tanks at the beginning of the war didn't help Russia accomplish stated objectives; We saw that where columns of tanks got taken out by withering ATGM fire.


More nazi western propaganda:

Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of Russia's Security Council, has said Russia will produce 1,500 battle tanks in 2023. “Conveyer belts of our military industrial complex are working in three shifts, and it will produce as many weapons as needed to efficiently protect the fatherland,” he said

https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-russia-unrealistically-forecasts-producing-1-500-tanks-a-year-/7027673.html






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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 10 2023 10:26pm)
https://www.technology.org/2023/04/09/russia-will-not-be-able-to-produce-1500-main-battle-tanks-per-year/

Just a single article but 1500 tanks a year doesn't seem realistic apparently.
Even if it was attainable, having more tanks at the beginning of the war didn't help Russia accomplish stated objectives; We saw that where columns of tanks got taken out by withering ATGM fire.

Also, arguing that because the Soviets produced 80,000 T-34's in the 70 years that it existed including the second world war, somehow proves that Russia could produce 1500 T-90's is not really a valid argument.

Different tanks, different times, different supply chains.


The point I made is that Russia is clearly capable of cranking out military hardware in wartime while entire factories had to be relocated.

Putin doubled the budget, 24/7 production so production will increase there's no other outcome unless a critical part is in short supply because of sanctions but I wouldn't count on that. They'll just use lesser parts and go from there.
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 10 2023 10:39pm)
More nazi western propaganda:

Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of Russia's Security Council, has said Russia will produce 1,500 battle tanks in 2023. “Conveyer belts of our military industrial complex are working in three shifts, and it will produce as many weapons as needed to efficiently protect the fatherland,” he said

https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-russia-unrealistically-forecasts-producing-1-500-tanks-a-year-/7027673.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BTyzygWDKA


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/27/16/65963015-11576727-Medvedev_started_his_list_of_predictions_with_oil_prices_for_202-a-13_1672158168828.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/27/15/65963065-11576727-image-a-17_1672155559342.jpg


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Quote (Djunior @ 11 Sep 2023 04:43)
Your channel is financed by the US government


The Voice of Series is literally the worst propaganda mouth piece by the United States government since it's inception.
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Quote (Meanwhile @ 10 Sep 2023 21:48)
More like Gruuk is unable to properly enter the discussion, or prefers to avoid it with a clownshit joke..



Are you saying you will not defend your country when the ruskies attack?
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Your channel is financed by the US government


Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 10 Sep 2023 22:48)
The Voice of Series is literally the worst propaganda mouth piece by the United States government since it's inception.


More nazi propaganda !

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Quote (Djunior @ Sep 10 2023 09:41pm)
The point I made is that Russia is clearly capable of cranking out military hardware in wartime while entire factories had to be relocated.

Putin doubled the budget, 24/7 production so production will increase there's no other outcome unless a critical part is in short supply because of sanctions but I wouldn't count on that. They'll just use lesser parts and go from there.


At bold, 100% true. It is though a stretch to say that because they cranked out x amount of T-34's that they can, without question crank out x amount of T-90's.
Hypothetically if Russia could produce 1000 tanks a year for the next decade, do you think it can provide a solution to its current military predicament? Eg could they mount another assault on Kiev?

In referring to the war period where Russian factories had to be moved, its worth pointing out the scale of support from the allies and in particular Britain, which was not negligible but often forgotten.

"The Prime Minister (Mr. Attlee) Yes, Sir. I am circulating a full statement in the OFFICIAL REPORT. The House may like to have the following summary of this. In the period from 1st October, 1941, to 31st March, 1946, we supplied to the Soviet Union 5,218 tanks, of which 1,388 were from Canada. We supplied 7,411 aircraft, including 3,129 aircraft sent from the United States of America. As previously explained on the 10th May, 1944, the aircraft from the United States of America were sent on United States Lend Lease to the Soviet Union as part of the British commitment to the U.S.S.R. in exchange for the supply of British aircraft to United States Forces in the European Theatre. The total value of military supplies despatched amounts to approximately £308 million. We have also sent about £120 million of raw materials, foodstuffs, machinery, industrial plant, medical supplies and hospital equipment."

Interestingly would account for over £25 billion of aid adjusting for inflation.
https://www.in2013dollars.com/uk/inflation/1945?amount=500000000
"£500,000,000 in 1945 is equivalent in purchasing power to about £27,609,761,902.28 today"

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Sep 10 2023 03:10pm
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Imho this tank story is over, we just have to wait the end of the year to know the real output.
Btw production =/= renovation.

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