Yes, and the situation is very unfair for Ukraine: Finland or/and Sweden may obtain the membership during the war... Sad



My bad btw; Democracies have hard time to declare war if not attacked directly and if no alliance treaty exists with the attacked one.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 6 2022 05:46am

agree with that, but also there are caveats when it comes to superpowers (for instance re: America and Kuwait).

I am not convinced that democratically elected governments are able to working thing out. There is ample evidence in history to refute this.

Re: Finland, my view here is that Nato would be very ambitious (dare i say reckless) and completely disregarding the current regional war if they were to give Finland membership status now, and if i have to be the dissenting voice, I would also say that finland is walking into the same trap that ukraine and georgia walked into. i.e. by seeking to avert disaster they are taking steps that unfortunately encourage disaster and escalate the current situation. When more and more players become involved it becomes easier and easier for things to spiral dreadfully. If i was finland i would wait a few years before entertaining notions of nato (as previously stated, wait until putin is gone and russia does not have a hard on). why would russia invade finland if not provoked ? it makes no sense to me.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 6 2022 06:41am

Nope. Finland and Sweden were never part of the Soviet Union

The situation is not identical but nevertheless it is one more country which nato would only be too happy to include in the gang. from what i read earlier this would go down like a lead balloon in moscow.

Parts of Finland were.

Winter/Continuation Wars.

if you go back far enough you can find this image.

and yes, thats Mordor in the East OFC OFC

Nowai

Back on-topic

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This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 6 2022 07:07am

one does not simply walk there.

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