and has been debunked a million times, Christopher Steele was not retained to produce the dossier until after the republicans had dropped them and democrats had picked them up, meaning the funding came from democrats alone. And your opinion on such a quibble doesn't matter as much as Bruce Ohr's opinion, because he's the person who explicitly told the FBI leadership that Steele produced the Dossier using democratic campaign bucks and had a raging hate-boner for Trump. Which completely flies in the face of the democrat's deflection from the FISA dossier in which they claimed that Ohr never talked to the FBI prior to the election and the FBI had no idea of Steele's bias.

The data/info that built it though went back to 2015.

i'm frankly at a loss why people are so intent on politicizing the FISA stuff. we got exposed, our FISA standards across the board were shit. All you needed was a sticky note saying someone smelled like a witch and boom, warrant stamped. since then i've heard of no worthwhile changes to the FISA courts, just political sniping. and the elites who maintained a tool well outside of the 4th amendment sit back and smile, they kept their catchall.

This poor Rudy should definitely not be here
Maybe he's sharing a dirty stick with Donald or something like this.

because since 9/11, although our country has managed to completely shit all over civil rights and privacy with rubber stamp processes to allow mass surveillance, it has maintained the fragile safety net of insulating the spying apparatus from being weaponized for partisan political purposes. We were quite happy to dragnet spy on anyone and everyone as long as it was just being used to watch Ahmed through a laptop camera while he jerks off to goat porn in case he plans a terrorist attack. But until the Trump campaign, there's been no allegations of politicians spying on another- which was a pretty proud accomplishment considering LBJ spied on Nixon, Nixon spied on democrats, Reagan & Bush spied on Carter, etc. We actually had multiple layers of quarantine to separate surveillance from politics, no doubt helped by the fact that those protects were created by the people being protected. The whole 'masking' thing for example. But nobody said anything about Bush/Obama/Romney/McCain/etc.

None of the politicians actually want to challenge our surveillance state, but they're all wary about getting Flynn'd by a hoover-esque FBI.

I can't believe Steele was biased against a man he thought was deeply compromised by Russia. Fucking libtards man.

If Trump isn't implicated in the conspiracy with Russia, I think Spygate will be Benghazi 2.0. Years of hearings with no indictments.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 17 2019 03:51pm

Russia Collusion does indeed smell a lot like Benghazi.

>they're all bad
>[partisan sniping continues]
>everything is fine

Just checking in, have we impeached or are we continuing to hemorrhage public money?

I wasn't aware saving tax dollars was a priority for anyone