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Sep 8 2023 01:48pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 8 2023 08:55pm)
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You had ww3 when Moskva went kaput ?

So -No-. Ww3" is such an horrible bad faith excuse: Musk gave the prioty to war ships over ukrainian cities, and ruscists are celebrating.


The FACT is that Musk was worried triggering WW3 so he shut down Starlink. That is a FACT, so yes
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That's not what I'm saying. Genocide clearly exists, but the word genocide has been so degraded by unjustified utterances by leftists (yes just leftists) that many people no longer understand the meaning of the word.

That includes yourself. None of the events cited here (except arguably the Holodomor) constitute a genocide. The Holodomor is the closest, which could be considered a partial genocide as there was no intent to eradicate the ethnic Ukrainian population, but to cripple them. Which again is close but not complete so it's debatable whether it can be considered a true genocide. Compare this to true genocides such as the Holocaust, the destruction of Carthage, the Rwandan attempted complete genocide of the Tutsis, the destruction of Jerusalem and later the destruction of Bar Kohkba's kingdom, genocides committed by the Mongols, and numerous genocides in Africa that no one documented and countless ethnic peoples that were completely wiped out


Yes, it has been degraded but not only by "leftists". Remember the "Great Replacement" ?
Cringe american far left =/= social democrats in EU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)

Genocide has several definitions and parameters: Things can tend more or less to a genocide.
A Ruscist military agression like the one in Ukraine concatenate several of these parameters, up to 4/5 already but technically it can be rejected as a pure old good old school genocide.

You have very serious experts who pointed out the genocidal aspect of the ruscist military agression, i posted source recently about it.

No one tried to criticize it, your guys are ignoring it, on the other hand when you have a safe space you cope on "fake genocide" What ruscism represents is serious, what the CCP did to these chinese muslims is serious.
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the chinese drunkard is so desperate for other kremlin bots' approval tonight, lol. he's spam-referencing and brown-nosing every war apologist he can find, lol. lonely night, huh?



stop straw-manning me, you desperate pootlicker.

it was russia that instigated the conflict in donbas. their unmarked troops there, the occupation of administrative buildings, all that is well documented. the former was also, admitted by pootin himself btw, so you can ignore it all you want, but the man himself had to concede it's true, lol.

and again, even your propaganda version does not justify russias INVASION, which completely destroyed the region within months, and killed infinitely more civilians than the previous conflict in donbass, when russia "just" sent unmarked troops to wage war.

no matter how you spin it, russia is the aggressor, russia is the main culprit, russia continues to murder innocent civilians by the thousands - and no mental gymnastics from you pootlickers, no silly bothsidesism, no dishonest whataboutism will magically change that simple truth.


Did you see this in the article that was linked?

If what Isaacson has written in his book is true, then it looks like Musk is the last adequate mind in North America,” Medvedev wrote on Musk’s X.Or, at the very least, in gender-neutral America, he is the one with the balls.”

“Elon Musk,” a biography by historian, professor and former Time magazine editor Isaacson, is set to be released on September 12.

:lol:
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Quote (Djunior @ 9 Sep 2023 03:48)
The FACT is that Musk was worried triggering WW3 so he shut down Starlink. That is a FACT, so yes


I honestly think the three of them have some sort of tourettes syndrome that is being channel through their fingers to their keyboard.
Always using the same catch phrases and mudslinging techniques.

Three words to describe such banal characters.

Insipid, vacuous and dull-witted.




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The FACT is that Musk was worried triggering WW3 so he shut down Starlink. That is a FACT, so yes



the FACT is Ukrainian presidential said @elonmusk allowed this fleet to fire Kalibr missiles at Ukrainian cities. As a result, civilians, and children are being kille. This is FACT.

MOSKVA didnt trigger WW3, mega FACT lol.
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the FACT is Ukrainian presidential said @elonmusk allowed this fleet to fire Kalibr missiles at Ukrainian cities. As a result, civilians, and children are being kille. This is FACT.

MOSKVA didnt trigger WW3, mega FACT lol.


How did Musk allow it ? Why did the US not simply buy Elon's technology, or pay for it years ago when they could have ? Why did they not give Ukraine long range missiles, why did they not send NATO into Ukraine? Why should Elon Musk have to give a country weapons on war? because he has them? Why not just give out to the US for not giving Ukraine Nuclear Weapons.

Your blaming Elon for not enabling people to murder. It does not matter if its Russians or Ukrainians. The world should be glad Tony Stark has a moral compass.

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How did Musk allow it ? Why did the US not simply buy Elon's technology, or pay for it years ago when they could have ? Why did they not give Ukraine long range missiles, why did they not send NATO into Ukraine? Why should Elon Musk have to give a country weapons on war? because he has them? Why not just give out to the US for not giving Ukraine Nuclear Weapons.


Why you want russian missiles to kill even more childrens ?


Quote (ferdia @ 8 Sep 2023 21:59)
How did Musk allow it ? Why did the US not simply buy Elon's technology, or pay for it years ago when they could have ? Why did they not give Ukraine long range missiles, why did they not send NATO into Ukraine? Why should Elon Musk have to give a country weapons on war? because he has them? Why not just give out to the US for not giving Ukraine Nuclear Weapons.

Your blaming Elon for not enabling people to murder. It does not matter if its Russians or Ukrainians. The world should be glad Tony Stark has a moral compass.


Self defense eventually, giving priority to Ukrainians.

Private property can quickly become secondary in war conditions: Nations can guarantee or steal private property, and wars can change nations.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Sep 8 2023 02:05pm
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Why you want russian missiles to kill even more childrens ?


Why should I answer your questions when you dont answer my questions and your buddy makes this account ? https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1422660
You had the audacity to suggest I made this account. Why dont you ask your buddy to admit to you that he made that account, then you can apologize to me and then I will answer your questions again.

Actions have consequences. YOU dont understand this concept. Maybe one day you will. In the meantime dont expect me to answer any of your questions until you have an attitude adjustment.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 8 2023 02:07pm
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the FACT is Ukrainian presidential said @elonmusk allowed this fleet to fire Kalibr missiles at Ukrainian cities. As a result, civilians, and children are being kille. This is FACT.

MOSKVA didnt trigger WW3, mega FACT lol.


The drone attack mentioned wasn't about the Moscva, it was an attack with multiple drones on Sevastopol

Read the article first before responding

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Quote (ferdia @ 9 Sep 2023 04:04)
Why should I answer your questions when you dont answer my questions and your buddy makes this account ? https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1422660


Maybe it was him who made the account. :rofl:

He don't DARE to make his own Ukraine / Russia thread.
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