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They even look like twins


When corruption is institutionalized people are voting for the biggest vilain because they think it will be fair for everyone. Sad but true.
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When corruption is institutionalized people are voting for the biggest vilain because they think it will be fair for everyone. Sad but true.


Unlike Trump he was worried about being infected by covid and took like 7 jabs. It didn't work.
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Russia has -Nuclear weapons-, Finland and Sweden are playing NATO card for survival reasons.
The risk is small but at country level it's not acceptable. (that Russia invade them with nukes support)


Russia to my mind does not have the will to invade Finland based on Finlands current wish to join Nato. I believe the West would have already told Russia that Finland is one of their red lines "invade Finland and we are at war". I would suggest that Russia recognizes this red line and therefore will not cross it. I accept that this is double standards noting the West ignored Russia's red line on Ukraine, but its not the same situation/country.

However having said that, we live in uncertain times. The West sees itself reacting to Russia aggression while Russia sees itself reacting to Western aggression. Further Sanctions and further Nato members are escalating measures which I believe the Russians will look to respond to, which in turn will prompt the West to escalate further. eek?

At a certain point one would like to think that things will row back. However there is ZERO sign of that right now.

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Most possible scenario:
Belarus invades Finland
Half of Finnish army dies to laughter
The rest do harakiri a la Finn (open a rectal vein with a dumb can opener)
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Russia to my mind does not have the will to invade Finland based on Finlands current wish to join Nato. I believe the West would have already told Russia that Finland is one of their red lines "invade Finland and we are at war". I would suggest that Russia recognizes this red line and therefore will not cross it. I accept that this is double standards noting the West ignored Russia's red line on Ukraine, but its not the same situation/country.

However having said that, we live in uncertain times. The West sees itself reacting to Russia aggression while Russia sees itself reacting to Western aggression. Further Sanctions and further Nato members are escalating measures which I believe the Russians will look to respond to, which in turn will prompt the West to escalate further. eek?

At a certain point one would like to think that things will row back. However there is ZERO sign of that right now.


There's also some kind of synergy, exercices, bases, and whole sky military surveillance and procedures associated with NATO.
You need to sign papers to get this ready, operationnal. Else it's uncertainty, which is something -bad- for investors as examples.
Suprising how slow countries can be in declaring war to each others. Especially if they are not the ones attacked.
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There's also some kind of synergy, exercices, bases, and whole sky military surveillance and procedures associated with NATO.
You need to sign papers to get this ready, operationnal. Else it's uncertainty, which is something -bad- for investors as examples.
Suprising how slow countries can be in declaring war to each others. Especially if they are not the ones attacked.


if your not attacked, why would you declare war on a country ? its not surprising that counties are slow to declare war on another country when they have not been attacked.
If every country on the planet had that motto then we would have a world war. more countries declaring is basically escalation of one of the higher magnitudes.

more data dumping then ~

2000–present
Invasion Invading forces Defending forces
2022 invasion of Ukraine Russia Ukraine
2018 invasion of Socotra United Arab Emirates Yemen
2017 invasion of the Gambia Senegal
Nigeria
Ghana Gambia
2016 invasion of Syria Turkey Rojava
Islamic State
Syria
2014 invasion of Gaza Israel Gaza Strip
2014 invasion of Ukraine Russia Ukraine
2011 invasion of Somalia Kenya Somalia
2008 invasion of Gaza Israel Gaza Strip
2008 invasion of Georgia Russia Georgia (country)
2008 invasion of Anjouan Comoros Anjouan
2006 invasion of Somalia Ethiopia Somalia
2006 invasion of Lebanon Israel Lebanon
2004 invasion of Gaza Israel Gaza Strip
2003 invasion of Iraq Multi-National Force
United States
United Kingdom
Australia
Poland Iraq
2002 invasion of West Bank Israel West Bank
2001 invasion of Afghanistan United States
United Kingdom
Canada
Australia
Northern Alliance Afghanistan (Taliban)
1945–1999
Invasion Invading forces Defending forces
1999 invasion of Kargil Pakistan India
1998 invasion of Democratic Republic of Congo Uganda
Rwanda
Burundi Democratic Republic of the Congo
1998 invasion of Ethiopia Eritrea Ethiopia
1994 invasion of Haiti United States Haiti
1991 invasion of Iraq United States
United Kingdom
Saudi Arabia
Egypt
Syria Iraq
1991 Invasion of Saudi Arabia Iraq Saudi Arabia
1990 invasion of Kuwait Iraq Kuwait
1990 invasion of Rwanda Rwandan Patriotic Front Rwanda
1989 invasion of Panama United States Panama
1988 invasion of Spratly Islands China Vietnam
1984 Reconquista of Siachen India Pakistan
1983 invasion of Grenada United States Grenada
1982 invasion of Iraq Iran Iraq
1982 invasion of Lebanon Israel Palestine Liberation Organization
Syria
1982 invasion of Falklands Argentina United Kingdom
1980 invasion of Iran Iraq Iran
1979 invasion of Afghanistan Soviet Union Afghanistan
1979 invasion of Thailand Vietnam Thailand
1979 invasion of Vietnam China Vietnam
1979 invasion of Uganda Tanzania Uganda
1978 invasion of Cambodia Vietnam Cambodia
1978 invasion of Tanzania Uganda Tanzania
1978 invasion of Lebanon Israel Palestine Liberation Organization
1977 invasion of Ethiopia Somalia Ethiopia
1976 invasion of Lebanon Syria Lebanon
1975 invasion of East Timor Indonesia East Timor
1975 invasion of Spanish Sahara Morocco Spain
1975 invasion of Koh Poulo Wai Vietnam Cambodia
1975 invasion of Thổ Chu Islands Cambodia Vietnam
1975 invasion of South Vietnam North Vietnam South Vietnam
1974 invasion of Cyprus Turkey Cyprus
1974 invasion of Paracel Islands China South Vietnam
1973 Invasion of Israel Egypt
Syria Israel
1972 invasion of South Vietnam North Vietnam South Vietnam
1971 invasion of Laos[1] South Vietnam
United States North Vietnam
1971 liberation of East Pakistan/bangladesh India Pakistan
1970 invasion of Cambodia[2][3][4] United States
South Vietnam North Vietnam
1970 invasion of Cambodia North Vietnam Cambodia Khmer Republic
1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia Soviet Union
Bulgaria
Hungary
Poland Czechoslovakia
1968 invasion of South Vietnam North Vietnam South Vietnam
1967 invasion of Kingdom of Sikkim Nathu La by p.r.c. and Cho La clashes China India
Sikkim
1967 invasions of Biafra Nigeria Biafra
1967 invasions of Biafra Biafra Nigeria
1967 invasion of Egypt Israel Egypt
1967 invasion of Syria Israel Syria
1967 invasion of Jordan Israel Jordan
1965 counter attack/ offencive by Indian Army in response to pakistani army in Lahore India Pakistan
1965 invasion of Jammu and Kashmir Pakistan India
1965 invasion of Dominican Republic United States Dominican Republic
1962 invasion of Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh by p.r.c China India
1961 invasion of New Guinea Indonesia Netherlands
1961 Liberation of Goa India Portugal
1961 invasion of Cuba United States Cuba
1958 invasion of Laos North Vietnam Laos Laos
1957 invasion of Spanish Sahara Morocco Spain Spain

Spanish Sahara

France France
1956 invasion of Hungary Soviet Union Hungary
1956 invasion of Egypt France
United Kingdom
Israel Egypt
1954 Indian reconquista of Dadra and Nagar Haveli India Portugal
1951 invasion of North Korea United States
South Korea North Korea
1951 invasion of South Korea United States
South Korea North Korea
1950 invasion of North Korea United States
South Korea North Korea
1950 invasion of South Korea North Korea South Korea
1950 invasion of Tibet China Tibet
1948 Indian reconquista of Hyderabad India Hyderabad State
1948 invasion of Israel Egypt
Jordan
Iraq
Syria Israel
1947 invasion of Jammu and Kashmir Pakistan India
Jammu-Kashmir-flag-1936-1953.gif Jammu and Kashmir
1946 invasion of Vietnam France Vietnam
1945 invasion of Vietnam France Vietnam
1945 invasion of Indonesia Netherlands Indonesia
1959 invasion of Tibet China Tibet

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 6 2022 05:40am
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if your not attacked, why would you declare war on a country ? its not surprising that counties are slow to declare war on another country when they have not been attacked.
If every country on the planet had that motto then we would have a world war.


Democracies don't declare war on each other. Educated nations with a middle class work it out with each other.
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if your not attacked, why would you declare war on a country ? its not surprising that counties are slow to declare war on another country when they have not been attacked.
If every country on the planet had that motto then we would have a world war.


"With NATO, you can't say NO" :lol:
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Well Nato has not been attacked, in fact its seeking expand (accepted its more correct to say that Ukraine and Finland are looking for membership).



This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 6 2022 05:42am
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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 6 2022 12:39pm)
Democracies don't declare war on each other. Educated nations with a middle class work it out with each other.


Query, whats your view on Gaza and the West Bank then? Are they dictatorships?
Whats your definition of an educated nation ? i mean Russia is educated, as is Israel, as is Iraq as is America as is Ukraine. Educated in what ?

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