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Went up significantly

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- Various health indexes

Which indices? BMI? Looks similar distribution to eg France.

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- Slavery (yes lol)

I'm going to cede this one to you and admit this is an issue in some parts of Russia. Having said that - according to e.g. ILO report they count all prison labour as forced slaves which skews statistics. https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_norm/---ipec/documents/publication/wcms_854733.pdf

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- STD


Elevated, but lower than eg USA.
https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/std-rates-by-country/

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- Hygiene access

Similar to e.g. France
https://ourworldindata.org/hygiene

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- Corruption index

Elevated, but Russians have been working on this and it takes decade of consistency to get rid of this plague.
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- Freedom index & Press freedom index

We discussed that. above.

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Want see charts ? I don't even want to see it. I don't even want to post it.

You have some kind of personnal gain with the regime aka if the regime change will you lose something ?


You are on a crusade that Russia and Russians as a nation, however complicated or similar to e.g. French they might be as a whole are the spawn of evil and everything they touch turns to shit. This is prime example of racism that should not be tolerated by anyone.

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Yes we get it. The path of least resistance is to not condemn Putin as long as your standard of life increases marginally.

Selfish cowardice.


Yes we get it. The path of least resistance is to not condemn foreign interventions by Britain as long as your standard of life increases marginally.

Selfish cowardice

Okay here we go again.

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Yes we get it. The path of least resistance is to not condemn foreign interventions by your own country as long as your standard of life increases marginally.

Selfish cowardice

Okay here we go again.


I literally condemned that in this thread multiple times^^
Not that its any of your business but I was at protests before the Iraq invasion where no less than a million people went out into the streets to protest.

Where was that resistance when Russia invaded its brotherly Ukraine? Cowards. Selfish cowards.

Why does the Pro Russia camp assume anyone that oppose them supported foreign interventions of western countries?
Is it just easier to deflect from atrocities being committed in your name?
The majority of Russians are complicit in the murder of Ukrainians, and for the deaths of Russians sent as cannon fodder.

Either way you can't pilfer out the consequences of your complicity. Sanctions, travel bans, brain drain, extraordinary inflation, thousands killed and years if not decades of insurgency to follow any hollow ceasfire.

Was it worth it for your stability and your pension comrade?

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I literally condemned that in this thread multiple times^^
Not that its any of your business but I was at protests before the Iraq invasion where no less than a million people went out into the streets to protest.

Where was that resistance when Russia invaded its brotherly Ukraine? Cowards. Selfish cowards.

Why does the Pro Russia camp assume anyone that oppose them supported foreign interventions of western countries?
Is it just easier to deflect from atrocities being committed in your name?
The majority of Russians are complicit in the murder of Ukrainians, and for the deaths of Russians sent as cannon fodder.

Either way you can't pilfer out the consequences of your complicity. Sanctions, travel bans, brain drain, extraordinary inflation, thousands killed and years if not decades of insurgency to follow any hollow ceasfire.

Was it worth your pension comrade?


I have missed your condemnation of Britain meddling in Ukrainian affairs.
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I have missed your condemnation of Britain meddling in Ukrainian affairs.


You mean Britain that gave security assurances after the collapse of the USSR in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons? That Britain?

You've made your bed in complicity, just lay in it. Kicking, screaming and deflecting responsibility for the consequences won't make any difference.
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Sep 8 2023 05:13am
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I have missed your condemnation of Britain meddling in Ukrainian affairs.


There was a conversation relating to Boris Johnston a good few months ago and he outright ignored what Boris said and I called him out for it. It is probably not helpful to bring up that conversation again noting he did not acknowledge the point then (ergo he is unlikely to acknowledge your point now). remember I have him blocked and dont read his posts (for obvious reasons, personal attacks, creating multi accounts https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1422660 etc). I think most sane people would agree I have no alternatives here.

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Ooft Comrade! Thats gonna be a sore one :thumbsup:

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There was a conversation relating to Boris Johnston a good few months ago and he outright ignored what Boris said and I called him out for it. It is probably not helpful to bring up that conversation again noting he did not acknowledge the point (ergo he wont acknowledge your point here).


Give us that quote of what Boris said. Still waiting!

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You mean Britain that gave security assurances after the collapse of the USSR in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons? That Britain?

You've made your bed in complicity, just lay in it. Kicking, screaming and deflecting responsibility for the consequences won't make any difference.


That Ukraine that had enough nukes aimed at the West for decades to glass over all major cities? that Ukraine that was a core part of the USSR, that Ukraine that after the fall of the USSR was basically little Russia, same people, same corruption, same Soviet infrastructure, same everything?

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Went up significantly
hich indices? BMI? Looks similar distribution to eg France.
I'm going to cede this one to you and admit this is an issue in some parts of Russia. Having said that - according to e.g. ILO report they count all prison labour as forced slaves which skews statistics. https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_norm/---ipec/documents/publication/wcms_854733.pdf
Elevated, but lower than eg USA.
https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/std-rates-by-country/
Similar to e.g. France
https://ourworldindata.org/hygiene
levated, but Russians have been working on this and it takes decade of consistency to get rid of this plague.
We discussed that. above.
You are on a crusade that Russia and Russians as a nation, however complicated or similar to e.g. French they might be as a whole are the spawn of evil and everything they touch turns to shit. This is prime example of racism that should not be tolerated by anyone.


You will have all of it






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Scotty indulging in his daily humiliation ritual I see
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