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Jul 3 2021 11:19am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 3 2021 05:56pm)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/06/24/israel-prepares-to-reinstate-mask-mandate-as-delta-variant-drives-new-covid-surge/?sh=4716116d0915

Israel is reinstating a mask mandate because their cases got above 100 a day

I want you to let that sink in, 100 a day. A factor of 40 fewer than the daily new cases before the vaccine was introduced. Doesn't sound contradictory at all. They're being cautious, probably too cautious, about a spike of cases that amounts to a few hundred a day.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/death-rate-from-variant-covid-virus-six-times-higher-for-vaccinated-than-unvaccinated-uk-health-data-show

The death rate for vaccinated individuals is 0.00636%, compared to 0.000957% among unvaccinated individuals. Now consider that the number of vaccinated people who are infected is a factor of 10 lower than the unvaccinated group (4087 vs 35521). So you are about 1/10th as likely to contract the delta variant, so the actual death rate from an equal group would be about 50% less likely to die from the delta variant.

So, in other words, you're eating up conspiracy garbage without thinking the data through.


nah pal.
israel legit rolled vaccines and vaccinated 80% people, 3 weeks later they had a delta variant that started fucking up people that were vaccinated.
roll your sleeve up, 3rd one is coming.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 3 2021 06:05pm)
Ofc I am vaccinated, and it helps alot, thus some people around got sick or even died and honestly it's just stupid to go yolo on COVID.
Also: people who had it already are catching it AGAIN with that new Delta variant shit AND i think the most important: smell and taste loss that is really super bad.



GL forging a database entry


you didnt answer the question, lemme try again:
if you were not vaccinated, would you be afraid of covid?
please answer honestly


This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Jul 3 2021 11:19am
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Jul 3 2021 11:34am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 3 Jul 2021 17:19)
nah pal.
israel legit rolled vaccines and vaccinated 80% people, 3 weeks later they had a delta variant that started fucking up people that were vaccinated.
roll your sleeve up, 3rd one is coming.

you didnt answer the question, lemme try again:
if you were not vaccinated, would you be afraid of covid?
please answer honestly


This is trashtalk, the delta is hitting unvaccinated kids, you refuse to admit vaccination is effective.
In the same way, yes, like anyone reasonable , i am a little bit "affraid" of covd, especially with all the 2021 FUCKHEADS all around who refuse to apply basic protections rules or medical staff refusing to get vaccinated etc

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Jul 3 2021 11:40am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 3 2021 06:34pm)
This is trashtalk, the delta is hitting unvaccinated kids, you refuse to admit vaccination is effective.
In the same way, yes, like anyone reasonable , i am a little bit "affraid" of covd, especially with all the 2021 FUCKHEADS all around who refuse to apply basic protections rules or medical staff refusing to get vaccinated etc


nah it's not trashtalk.
but as other fatso says, perhaps im just brainwashed by all the conspiracy theories. last year i also believed conspiracy theories such as:
-mandatory masks
-mandatory vaccines
-lockdowns for few months
-economy collapse
-homeless situations escalation
-small businesses going bankrupt
-vaccine passports, almost forgot this one people laughed at
-once enough people are vaccinated there will be a new variant that vaccine is not gonna be effective for.

mb, sry glad two of you saw even in early 2020 how all of that is conspiracy bullshit

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Jul 3 2021 11:41am
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Jul 3 2021 11:53am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 3 2021 10:34am)
This is trashtalk, the delta is hitting unvaccinated kids, you refuse to admit vaccination is effective.
In the same way, yes, like anyone reasonable , i am a little bit "affraid" of covd, especially with all the 2021 FUCKHEADS all around who refuse to apply basic protections rules or medical staff refusing to get vaccinated etc


Yet india has gone quite since ivermectin addressed what Astrazeneca could not.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/92644
Even biblical precedent or whistle blower knowledge aside, A mrna gene altering vaccine has no long term clinical case study evaluation yet.
It has not been a fda approved product for quite some time. It was the lead scientist who granted it emergency status initially.

Even if it were a virus isolate instead of an MRNA spike protein, I had flu shots for 20+ years yet always got the Flu.
An important measure is distancing, but i'd say it's not reasonable to get it unless you subscribe to CDC/Gov's authority over you.
I find it more reasonable to side w/ the biblical prophecy & how america was founded~resisting governments.

Since America was founded on disobeying a corrupt british monarchy i find it reasonable to side w/ liberty, patriotism, & rebelling against the questionable if not unproven.

You're obviously free to say what you want which is ultimately a testament paying homage to rebels, but I would personally rethink "reasonable" either way.
Best wishes.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Jul 3 2021 11:55am
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Jul 3 2021 11:58am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 3 2021 06:41pm)
germany is taking signups for a 3rd shot aka booster shot for delta variant and so are UK and Ireland.

Germany wants to start rolling Pfizer vaccines for young people, claiming they're safest and Astra should be avoided due to blood cloths which are more common at young people using Astra.
Ireland wants to start rolling Astra vaccines for young people, claiming they're safest for young people.

significant researches done pal.
2 countries which are part of EU, which representatives are present on all medical meetings, are contradicting eachother both claiming they're right while saying different things.


I don't know man, I'm starting to think they will lose the emergency use authorisation. Maybe that's why they are pushing so much, I mean they are pushing it so much in EU especially FR where the people aren't particularly enthusiastic about the generic vaccine. The alternative cheap medicine's are starting to get harder and harder to sensor it's getting tough to hide the evidences. Shift of narrative maybe? I hope so
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Jul 3 2021 12:00pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Jul 3 2021 06:53pm)
Yet india has gone quite since ivermectin addressed what Astrazeneca could not.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/92644
Even biblical precedent or whistle blower knowledge aside, A mrna gene altering vaccine has no long term clinical case study evaluation yet.
It has not been a fda approved product for quite some time. It was the lead scientist who granted it emergency status initially.

Even if it were a virus isolate instead of an MRNA spike protein, I had flu shots for 20+ years yet always got the Flu.
An important measure is distancing, but i'd say it's not reasonable to get it unless you subscribe to CDC/Gov's authority over you.
I find it more reasonable to side w/ the biblical prophecy & how america was founded~resisting governments.

Since America was founded on disobeying a corrupt british monarchy i find it reasonable to side w/ liberty, patriotism, & rebelling against the questionable if not unproven.

You're obviously free to say what you want which is ultimately a testament paying homage to rebels, but I would personally rethink "reasonable" either way.
Best wishes.


Glad we vaccinated these Taiwan motherfuckers. Their cases were a global threat. Now after year and half of having normal covid-free life, they look better.

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Jul 3 2021 12:23pm


Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 3 Jul 2021 17:40)
nah it's not trashtalk.
but as other fatso says, perhaps im just brainwashed by all the conspiracy theories. last year i also believed conspiracy theories such as:
-mandatory masks
-mandatory vaccines
-lockdowns for few months
-economy collapse
-homeless situations escalation
-small businesses going bankrupt
-vaccine passports, almost forgot this one people laughed at
-once enough people are vaccinated there will be a new variant that vaccine is not gonna be effective for.

mb, sry glad two of you saw even in early 2020 how all of that is conspiracy bullshit



4 millions deads officially, probably like 2 times more or... even more.
vs
You saying whatever you think is convenient to your imagination.
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Jul 3 2021 12:31pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 3 2021 12:19pm)
nah pal.
israel legit rolled vaccines and vaccinated 80% people, 3 weeks later they had a delta variant that started fucking up people that were vaccinated.
roll your sleeve up, 3rd one is coming.


Yep, they did, which is why their "concerning rise in cases" amounts to 300 cases even after a 5x more infectious variant, wheras before it was 5000.

It's funny how the anti-vax and Covid denier positions fall apart by just.... reading the linked articles.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 3 2021 12:31pm
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Jul 3 2021 12:33pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 3 2021 11:00am)
Glad we vaccinated these Taiwan motherfuckers. Their cases were a global threat. Now after year and half of having normal covid-free life, they look better.

https://i.postimg.cc/hvLF5nJS/x.jpg


Glad you understand that pharmaceuticals suppress symptoms, which includes the ability to percieve them & thus report. If i were to take a pain killer for a headache, did it remove the inflammation or pain associated? -which would have had me go make a case? Critical thinking.

So, to see less reporting of symptoms does not necessarily equate to covid-free; you are guilty of demonstrating illusory correlation by insinuating a connection that I just explained in a more unbias way, which makes mine more scientific. Refer to simplicity as a scientific virtue. This is why IQ scores are very important, the shrewd know the unsung variables because they understand art sets up the experiment. The graph is only as good as your visual perception & deductive reasoning skills that are needed to comprehend it.

Hope you learned something about your affirmation bias.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Jul 3 2021 12:51pm
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Jul 3 2021 01:09pm
Quote (Unbornsav @ Jul 3 2021 09:30am)
all part of the plan. this is all planned its funny how people don't see it.


zombie apocalypse? maybe neurotic like this new world with government playing along forcing other people to play along and now they feel vindicated?
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