The dems don't care about winning an election really, they just want cash money from the corporate master. Oh sure they'll virtue signal to the maximum but these people have no souls. They don't have ACTUAL virtues to signal. Anytime lefties in the party try to speak up you've got your usual suspect in the media criticizing them or trying as best as possible not to mention them hoping they can't get enough donations for the debating stage.

this is true for the slightly older or more established democrats. the Harrises, Bookers, Bidens and O'Rourkes.
but the new crop of Democrats, the Ocasio-Cortez'es and Ilhan Omars, those are offenders by conviction. they imho really are in politics to work towards their political and ideological goals.

although AOC strikes me as someone who might get corrupted and brought into line by power and money in the long run...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 16 2019 10:47am

while this is true they're also Joan of Arc like characters that have no idea what's coming for them when they sign up for the job amid raucous support.

people said similar about Trump after he won but before he took office, ala "I bet he'll leave or not bother running in 2020 when he realizing how hard progress is and how dug in the opposition is".

I think AOC is all about her ideology because she doesn't yet know how infeasible it is for success. she might centralize OR she might just learn to enjoy her niche status in the legislature. Rand Paul gets to trot out every 4 years and try to be POTUS and he gets the spotlight occasionally on topics of sovereignty or violations of privacy. He'll never be POTUS and he's fine with it, he can still have an effect from the fringes.

Sure newblood is all about convictions just like how young voters are. I was more speaking about the party itself and how the primary candidates are looking up. I checked the list and you've got 2-3 candidates with some uniqueness the rest are the usual suspect and some randos that have no chance because no one knows them.

CNN and other channels make sure to do their washington insider duties and grill people who stand out like Bernie, Tulsi and whoever else I can't remember but treat their soulless cousins with kid's glove. Heck those two went on fox news a couple of times and they were treated more fairly and with less strawman/bad faith than on CNN/MSNBC and co. It's obvious the DNC called and asked them to attempt to trip them up. They're not following the program on XYZ issues, they must be eliminated.

You can't be expected to win an election and appeal to voters when you're barely to the left of establishment republicans besides social issues and identity politics bullshit. All those politicians and experts must know this, I refuse to believe they're all that dumb. The only explanation is that they don't care because they have something to gain from it. We all know what that's all about.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/16/18310769/pete-buttigieg-barack-obama-2020-presidential-announcement-hope-primary-democrats

Good stuff.

why don't the dems just stop playing around and run a figurehead woman candidate with Barack as their VP pick?

I love having m'lady Tulsi and pete and yang running around speaking and campaigning

different people different visions but they share the same class to just have a thoughtful substantive conversation about issues

none of the bullshit and the yelling and the anger and negativity

appreciate 'em

Liked the article a lot. I appreciate what it said about female candidates and how they're sort of damned if they do or don't when it comes to how they present themselves. Because of sexism they have to show that they are not "weak" but go "too far" and the same sexists might be too unsettled by a stronk independent womyn. I don't envy that part of their experience in politics at all. Still, most of them like Harris are corporate bought establishment so I don't care much for them but it's still a shitty thing.

It makes it weird though. Only men can hope. The strategy and research for speeches and how to do it is pretty fascinating to me. It's a bizzare world.

The world only wants to see women giving speeches through the kitchen window.

A very interesting read, several good points made in it, thank you!

Kinda sad though that it reverted back to the disease that plagues the Democratic Party in the era of Trump:



"There's this brilliant young candidate who sounds just like Obama, is breaking barriers by being openly gay and who might appeal to coastal progressives, party elites and midwestern obama-trump voters all at the same time. But eewww, he's still a white male. Shouldnt we have moved on from nominating something like that? Yes, he is gay, but his 'intersectionality score' still isnt really high enough to get behind him."


This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 16 2019 03:43pm