The unholy trinity

So what you could have said is: You made a mistake in assuming those weapons came from a NATO country; Obviously that would destroy the basis of your pre determined bias that everything you perceive as an issue in this war, is the fault of US/NATO.

Your not the only poster here that maintains that same predetermined bias, in fact there are several. You can always tell when the regurgitated argument comes up about Iraq war and Afghanistan conflict as if their existence somehow justifies what Russia is currently doing in Ukraine.
Its fine to have a dislike for US foreign policy but constantly anchoring arguments based on that dislike is actually not constructive or accurate.

It won't surprise me that you or others will refrain from observing their own clear bias and choose the path of least resistance. So because of that I'll include a TLDR to maintain the integrity of the truth in a debate.

TLDR - Australia is not a NATO member.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Aug 31 2023 08:59am

so if australia gets attacked, NATO's article 5 triggers?

dude... how can you not even acknowledge the most basic, the most obvious truth, and still expect to be taken seriously, lol?

is australia close to NATO? do they co-operate and coordinate? are they ideologically aligned? yes, of course. but does that mean they are a part of the alliance, are they contractually protected by the alliance's framework, does it mean what they do can be considered a NATO action and vice versa? no, that's completely made up by a russian war apologist who can't admit they were wrong. it's absurd really...

I kinda stopped posting in here bcuz its pointless and I said everything I wanted to (PARD is worse than reddit...absolutely subhuman tier disgusting ) but ... I actually had to go out of my way bcuz your post triggered me

Ever heard of something called Five Eyes? Essentially its NATO but for Angloids only.

Thats the core of your empire, NATO is the more outer layer all 5 of you Anglo types tightly cooperate and are locked together.

No. It is a fact that without NATO support Ukraine would have been captured in it's entirety by now, and would not be launching any weapons at Russia no matter how cheap or expensive they are. The supplier of the actual weapon is irrelevant, though it is perhaps noteworthy that the nation supplying the weapon is a staunch NATO ally that has never once opposed any NATO action in any way and has even supported every NATO action since NATO was first formed.



Says a guy demonstrating that very bias in the same sentence he accuses me of bias. I criticize all sides. I just also criticize the parties most at fault more than other parties. And in this scenario the US is more at fault than Russia. Putin's a real piece of shit and Russia is not a place I'd want to live. But Russia has the right to self defence which includes keeping the status quo on mutually assured destruction, which the US is actively trying to gain advantages in. Just as it did in the leadup to the Cuban missile crisis in which Russia refused to back down until the US backed down. The same end result is assured here, because everyone in Russia witnessed the US break it's promises to Russia and other nations repeatedly for the last 30 years. The word of the US is worthless. Putin and every one of his cronies could die tomorrow and the war would continue regardless. Russia can outlast NATO in Ukraine, and it is fully determined to do so. All efforts to thwart Russia on every stage from economics to war matériel has failed to do more than dent Russia. It's pointless continuing to support Ukraine, it is only damaging NATO's authority as well as threatening the US dollar's dominance as a global currency as well as costing thousands of Ukrainians their lives. All for a war that cannot be won. I hate the idea of leaving the people of Ukraine to Russia, but the alternative is worse.



Pointing out hypocrisy is never inaccurate and always constructive.



Australia is 100% a NATO member. You speak of bias in others but you fail to recognize your own.

Australia is not a NATO member.

This is a fact. How you feel about it does not alter the reality.

Wrong.

Not in NATO but it is part of the ANZUS Treaty and Five Eyes.

Nothing wrong with that though...blood is thicker than water.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_52044.htm

It's a fact. Australia is not a NATO member.

Continually disputing an indisputable fact is a clear sign that your unable of rational debate.
I actually appreciate that you have so publicly confirmed this, it is alot less effort to ignore someome so clearly incapable.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Aug 31 2023 09:51am