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Aug 30 2023 04:16pm
Quote (Santara @ Aug 30 2023 11:03pm)
It is *not* escalation. I'd agree if they were using American missiles instead of homemade drones. But tit for tat is continuation, not escalation. Escalation is taking it to a higher degree. Navy, not Army.
The US has been very careful to make sure American hardware isn't aimed into Russia itself, so as to not give Russia an excuse to claim that the US is fighting the war rather than supporting Ukraine's fight. Russia would be justified in complaining about fighting the US. But Russia doesn't get to complain about fighting Ukraine.


Look, contrary to the beliefs of some people around here, I am not pro-russian. As I look at the conflict, russia invaded. ukraine is the defender. when ukraine is capable of launching attacks inside russia, and launches attacks on russia, that is an escalation to the conflict. I dont understand why you cant agree with this?

put the shoe on the other foot. the US bombed the middle east for years. in retaliation, we had 9/11 world trade center. that was a retaliation and the rest as they say, is history. It escalated the conflict and the US responded by further escalating. Can you acknowledge this point? When you consider that the US has enabled Ukraine, its a much of a muchness as to what was used to carry out the attack.

ramping up attacks on russian soil is an escalation. If you dont think that is true then imagine if there were multiple 9/11's in the US. would they be seen as retaliatory, and not an escalation? to my mind if that happened the US would have gone full rambo above and beyond what they actually did (which was already full rambo).

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Look, contrary to the beliefs of some people around here, I am not pro-russian. As I look at the conflict, russia invaded. ukraine is the defender. when ukraine is capable of launching attacks inside russia, and launches attacks on russia, that is an escalation to the conflict. I dont understand why you cant agree with this?

put the shoe on the other foot. the US bombed the middle east for years. in retaliation, we had 9/11 world trade center. that was a retaliation and the rest as they say, is history. It escalated the conflict and the US responded by further escalating. Can you acknowledge this point?

ramping up attacks on russian soil is an escalation. If you dont think that is true then imagine if there were multiple 9/11's in the US. would they be seen as retaliatory, and not an escalation? to my mind if that happened the US would have gone full rambo above and beyond what the actually did (which was already full rambo).


The way you are dishonestly arguing around "escalation" just to be able to insert your 2/3 lines to bitch on the U.S. Wow this is more than pathetic.

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Aug 30 2023 10:58pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ 31 Aug 2023 06:30)
The way you are dishonestly arguing around "escalation" just to be able to insert your 2/3 lines to bitch on the U.S. Wow this is more than pathetic.

https://i.imgur.com/nigZQii.png


You mean like how you purposely made a thread about White Americans killing woman and children and all other races are some very kind people ?

thread here. Your poor attempt to to get Americans to stand on your side on this and your attempts to get Ferdia single out by Americans while you have been pissing on them for the past 10 years on Pard is going to help. ^_^

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=98621216&f=119

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Quote (ferdia @ Aug 30 2023 05:16pm)
Look, contrary to the beliefs of some people around here, I am not pro-russian. As I look at the conflict, russia invaded. ukraine is the defender. when ukraine is capable of launching attacks inside russia, and launches attacks on russia, that is an escalation to the conflict. I dont understand why you cant agree with this?

put the shoe on the other foot. the US bombed the middle east for years. in retaliation, we had 9/11 world trade center. that was a retaliation and the rest as they say, is history. It escalated the conflict and the US responded by further escalating. Can you acknowledge this point? When you consider that the US has enabled Ukraine, its a much of a muchness as to what was used to carry out the attack.

ramping up attacks on russian soil is an escalation. If you dont think that is true then imagine if there were multiple 9/11's in the US. would they be seen as retaliatory, and not an escalation? to my mind if that happened the US would have gone full rambo above and beyond what they actually did (which was already full rambo).


Quote (dictionary)
es·ca·la·tion
/ˌeskəˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun
a rapid increase; a rise.
"cost escalations"

an increase in the intensity or seriousness of something; an intensification.
"an escalation of violence"


This isn't an increase/intensification, especially considering the comparative weakness of the weapons Ukraine is using to retaliate against Russia.
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Aug 31 2023 04:33am
So russians are now calling their "elite reserve" while Ukrainians need around 20 more kilometers penetration to be able to hit russian supply lines (they could cut supply lines in whole Crimea + western south front: it's a big deal)



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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 31 Aug 2023 06:58)
You mean like how you purposely made a thread about White Americans killing woman and children and all other races are some very kind people ?

thread here. Your poor attempt to to get Americans to stand on your side on this and your attempts to get Ferdia single out by Americans while you have been pissing on them for the past 10 years on Pard is going to help. ^_^

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=98621216&f=119


I clearly said not all american soldiers are like this and it was an isolated group. Also said there are bad groups in all armies.
But you are clearly ignoring what i said, proceeding false accusations and bumping this topic with no other reason that just to flame me.

A topic i made after a relative told me about his experience during iraq war 1
In the first post we can read:
- I clearly told him it does not represent all americans.
- I'm saying there are bad groups in all armies in the world.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ 31 Aug 2023 18:33)
So russians are now calling their "elite reserve" while Ukrainians need around 20 more kilometers penetration to be able to hit russian supply lines (they could cut supply lines in whole Crimea + western south front: it's a big deal)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD8qOP37RCU

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I clearly said not all american soldiers are like this and it was an isolated group. Also said there are bad groups in all armies.
But you are clearly ignoring what i said, proceeding false accusations and bumping this topic with no other reason that just to flame me.

A topic i made after a relative told me about his experience during iraq war 1
In the first post we can read:
- I clearly told him it does not represent all americans.
- I'm saying there are bad groups in all armies in the world.

Bumped after 20 days by Hamsterbaby
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Aug 31 2023 06:11am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 30 Aug 2023 05:51)
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/164v42r/ukrainian_mass_drone_attack_on_russian_military/

Cardboard drones landing in Russian airfields.
Russia isn't even winning the war in Russia while Ukraine is taking back territory in the south.

Keep coping.


NATO outspending Russia yet can only afford cardboard weapons? Guess that explains why Russia's still winning. :rofl:
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Quote (Vastet @ 31 Aug 2023 14:11)
NATO outspending Russia yet can only afford cardboard weapons? Guess that explains why Russia's still winning. :rofl:


NATO does not provide weapons to attack directly on Russian territory. Ukrainians have developped various drones, including cheap cardboard ones.
Beyonid the "beaver" the most promising are these submarine dones with a crazy range. Btw yesterday these russian transporters got pretty much owned.

Russia collaborating with North Korea to get weapons & ammunitions. I would be ashamed.

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-deepen-ties-north-095952162.html
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Aug 31 2023 06:50am
Quote (Vastet @ Aug 31 2023 01:11pm)
NATO outspending Russia yet can only afford cardboard weapons? Guess that explains why Russia's still winning. :rofl:


Those are Australian drones. I know very few posters here struggle to differentiate between NATO and non NATO countries; Or fail to understand what NATO actually is.

But Australia is not in NATO. Try harder kid.
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Aug 31 2023 06:54am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 31 Aug 2023 08:31)
NATO does not provide weapons to attack directly on Russian territory. Ukrainians have developped various drones, including cheap cardboard ones.


Which they couldn't do without NATO financial support.

Quote (Meanwhile @ 31 Aug 2023 08:31)
Russia collaborating with North Korea to get weapons & ammunitions. I would be ashamed.


Then it's good you aren't running any part of the war because only a fool cares more about appearances than victory.
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