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Aug 27 2023 10:57am
Quote (fender @ Aug 27 2023 06:53pm)
why do you keep dodging? i asked a simple question, you can't answer it and resort to silly personal attacks. try to keep up, slowpoke.


Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 26 2023 09:24pm)
I wasn't addressing you alone. Everybody was propagating that wrong info. There are two pipeline systems with 2 pipelines each. One is NS1 and the other NS2. NS1 was destroyed. NS2 still has got 1 intact pipeline. The rest of the info I didn't look at. You might be right or wrong depending on the perspective but that one is a fact.


You had it there. Your info, by that I mean your and everyone else' info on Nord stream pipelines were wrong.
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Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 27 2023 05:52pm)
Why are you so insecure? :lol:
I answered all questions. If you want to misunderstand them on purpose, not my problem. I don't chase internet points. Peace out :banana:


Can I humbly highlight the contrasting responses/attitude when you call different people out.

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 27 2023 11:02am
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Aug 27 2023 11:01am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 27 2023 05:55pm)
Didnt read


#DidntRead sounds even better


Quote (fender @ Aug 27 2023 06:51pm)
holy fucking rekt, lol.


Want me to to frame some of your quotes in similar dishonest fashion?

Imagine applauding that shit, desperate much, lol

And good that you're back btw, you failed to reply when I asked you if the NS sabotage should have serious political consequences for Ukraine.

Go ^^
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Aug 27 2023 11:04am
Quote (babun1024 @ 27 Aug 2023 18:57)
You had it there. Your info, by that I mean your and everyone else' info on Nord stream pipelines were wrong.


silly pivot. read the question again.

was europe already divesting?
was it reasonable for russia to expect that ns wouldn't yield them any revenue for years to come?

if you answer those question with "yes", as any halfway intelligent and informed person would, you'd realise that the fairy tale about russia's "cash cow", favoured by all our resident kremlin bots, is complete bs. that's my whole point here.
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Aug 27 2023 11:11am
Quote (fender @ Aug 27 2023 07:04pm)
silly pivot. read the question again.

was europe already divesting?
was it reasonable for russia to expect that ns wouldn't yield them any revenue for years to come?

if you answer those question with "yes", as any halfway intelligent and informed person would, you'd realise that the fairy tale about russia's "cash cow", favoured by all our resident kremlin bots, is complete bs. that's my whole point here.


Russia can destroy their own pipeline any day they want, its theirs so what?

They can also blow up ZNPP whenever they want, its theirs as well.

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Aug 27 2023 11:14am
Quote (fender @ 28 Aug 2023 00:51)
holy fucking rekt, lol.


Like how you got wrecked by me to a point that you try to come up with some imaginary challenge with the hopes that I will leave Pard, while crying like a little girl at the corner of the room?
I was rather concern about you at that point, because it would be a shame that you hurt your soft little hands when you falcon punch your CRT monitor and injure yourself.

By the way, try to upgrade your vocabulary and phrases instead of using Pootin, Ampoo, Kremlin Bot, Shill and clutching pearls, they are getting rather boring. :rolleyes:

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Quote (Djunior @ 27 Aug 2023 19:01)
#DidntRead sounds even better




Want me to to frame some of your quotes in similar dishonest fashion?

Imagine applauding that shit, desperate much, lol

And good that you're back btw, you failed to reply when I asked you if the NS sabotage should have serious political consequences for Ukraine.

Go ^^


if you didn't have the reading comprehension and general english skills of a bolivian toddler, you'd already know the answer to that question. now stop following me around, you desperate troll. this is a forum for political discussion, not your inept parroting of russian propaganda.
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Aug 27 2023 11:21am
Quote (ferdia @ Aug 27 2023 07:01pm)
Can I humbly highlight the contrasting responses/attitude when you call different people out.

He sounds like a typical leftist lemming. You can't talk sense to them. Anything you tell them is going to be picked up and misunderstood on purpose.
For example, he wrote it's my opinion NS1& NS2 and SWIFT as leverage would have stopped the invasion. I never wrote or said anything along the lines. It all plays in his own head.
Thinking in leverages, assume the war is over at some point. Do you have more leverage over the agreements and policies with nothing in hand or with leverage? Would Russia would give more fucks with SWIFT and NS1/2 revenue or without on the table?

The SWIFT exclusion is a nightmare even with CIA. You could track and follow all kind of legal/illegal trade Russia did. Now, they still do shady business but it's much harder to track. BRICS countries are going to adopt their version of SWIFT. Expect even more hardly trackable shady deals world wide.

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Quote (babun1024 @ 28 Aug 2023 01:21)
He sounds like a typical leftist lemming. You can't talk sense to them. Anything you tell them is going to be picked up and misunderstood on purpose.
For example, he wrote it's my opinion NS1& NS2 and SWIFT as leverage would have stopped the invasion. I never wrote or said anything along the lines. It all plays in his own head.
Thinking in leverages, assume the war is over at some point. Do you have more leverage over the agreements and policies with nothing in hand or with leverage? Would Russia would give more fucks with SWIFT and NS1/2 revenue or without on the table?

The SWIFT exclusion is a nightmare even with CIA. You could track and follow all kind of legal/illegal trade Russia did. Now, they still do shady business but it's much harder to track. BRICS countries are going to adopt their version of SWIFT. Expect even more hardly trackable shady deals world wide.


This is going to be a huge major issue. I am not sure about this but maybe or can guide me on this. For every Swift transaction, the US earns about 5% of the transaction fee. It is basically free money while you sleep. If there is going to be another system ( They don't really care about shady business unless when there is Geo Political motivation or when interest are being threaten.) but they do care that their profits is going to be affected. It is somewhat of a nightmare, but US will have to react at one point or another , so it really depends on how things are going forward.

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Aug 27 2023 11:35am
interesting article:

https://cepa.org/article/ukraine-victory-is-closer-than-you-think/

not sure to which degree i agree with it, seems overly "optimistic", but certainly some great insight.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 27 Aug 2023 19:14)
Like how you got wrecked by me to a point that you try to come up with some imaginary challenge with the hopes that I will leave Pard, while crying like a little girl at the corner of the room?
I was rather concern about you at that point, because it would be a shame that you hurt your soft little hands when you falcon punch your CRT monitor and injure yourself.

By the way, try to upgrade your vocabulary and phrases instead of using Pootin, Ampoo, Kremlin Bot, Shill and clutching pearls, they are getting rather boring. :rolleyes:


it's hard to decipher what you're trying to tell me in your extremely broken english, but rest assured, if i really cared about the opinion of a chinese drunkard, i'd simply ask.

maybe only post again if you have something of substance to contribute? this is a forum for political discussion, not your weird little phantasies about me.
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