Quote (fender @ Aug 27 2023 01:37am)
what about my point:
- when the pipelines were blown up, europe had already scaled down imports from russia, and was committed to divesting from it completely, so the "wHy wOuLd rUsSiA bLoW uP iTs oWn cAsH cOw" argument, popular amongst kremlin bots, makes no sense. russia was well aware that revenue generated through those pipelines wouldn't be a thing for years to come.
do you consider "false information"?
nothing of what you posted refutes or conflicts with any of that, lol.
How about something so obvious and banal?
1. Just because a property is not used at the moment, blowing up by a 3rd party doesn't justify anything. Let's blow up your home when you're on holidays. You aren't there anyways
2. Why would Russia destroy the pipelines if they could just turn off gas delivery on their end? In fact, they did during the war.
3. All investigation leads lead to Ukraine as of now. They are not capable of such operations. The US and UK are. Ukrainian government heavily cooperated with both prior to war.
https://themessenger.com/news/report-points-to-rogue-ukrainian-saboteurs-in-nord-stream-gas-pipeline-bombinghttps://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/06/nord-stream-pipeline-explosion-ukraine-russia/Geopolitically, that was one of the simple dumbest move since a long time. Those pipelines and SWIFT were the best leverage Europe had vs Russia. By taking them away, we basically told Russia to do as they please because we aren't going to change our opinion.
This is the result:
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-economy-stagnates-q2-after-winter-recession-2023-08-25/This post was edited by babun1024 on Aug 27 2023 01:56am