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Aug 26 2023 01:27pm
Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 26 2023 08:24pm)
I wasn't addressing you alone. Everybody was propagating that wrong info. There are two pipeline systems with 2 pipelines each. One is NS1 and the other NS2. NS1 was destroyed. NS2 still has got 1 intact pipeline. The rest of the info I didn't look at. You might be right or wrong depending on the perspective but that one is a fact.


yes thats fine, i can concede this point, thank you for clarifying.
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Aug 26 2023 01:28pm
Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 26 2023 08:31pm)
Both you, fender, ferdia and co. are telling false information. NS2 was finished but never used. NS1 was used heavily by all of the Europe through German proxy (Germany bought and resold to surrounding European market). The attacks were on NS1 (intact and heavily used pipeline) and NS2 (intact and fully usable but not allowed to be active due to sanctions issued by the US prior to the Russian -Ukrainian war). The explosions completely broke NS1 (consisting of 2 pipelines) and damaged one of the two NS2 pipelines. Hence, NS2 is still intact (one pipeline) and fully functional but not used for political reasons.
Whataboutism never solved any problems. Blowing up German and Russian property is a crime against these countries. You can't justify crime with crimes. Didn't Jesus teach you anything? :D
All of the info in the MSM is wrong anyways. The lead goes to Ukraine but Ukraine never had the marine ability to go through with that kind of operation. Only countries in questions are Russia, USA and UK. It wasn't Russia for sure. I don't understand the idiotism about memes with Budanov as well. a 30+ year old has got 0 say in anything in special services. All the intel are provided by Nato, primarily by UK and US.


TBH I think that everyone here knows that NS 2 was never used because of US pressure. Officially the procedure was ongoing IIRC because your government was hesitant to simply cut their losses and rightfully so ($10B+ project)

e: Also it's clear the goal was to destroy all pipelines, why would the attackers have spared one of the individual pipelines. They must have ran out of time / air / whatever

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TBH I think that everyone here knows that NS 2 was never used because of US pressure. Officially the procedure was ongoing IIRC because your government was hesitant to simply cut their losses and rightfully so ($10B+ project)

e: Also it's clear the goal was to destroy all pipelines, why would the attackers have spared one of the individual pipelines. They must have ran out of time / air / whatever


there is no need to argue a point here, he outlined it very well.
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Aug 26 2023 01:33pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 26 2023 08:30pm)
https://i.imgur.com/dljZArh.png

Ruscists ? I guess they want to keep circle jerking on NS2 (which never was in service and was even cancelled before the war) because they don't want to talk about the actual situation in Ukraine.


I hope the Ukrainians are smart enough to not end up in a pocket (cauldron) because that's what this is starting to look like
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Aug 26 2023 01:34pm
Quote (ferdia @ Aug 26 2023 09:32pm)
there is no need to argue a point here, he outlined it very well.


This is not arguing, the NS 2 procedure and US pressure made headlines for a long time. It's factual and correct to mention that
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Aug 26 2023 01:39pm
Russians blew up NS1/2, so what? They own it, they can do as they like.
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Aug 26 2023 01:48pm
Quote (babun1024 @ 26 Aug 2023 20:51)
Dude, my IQ is too high for bullshit. If you don't have anything constructive to tell me, just ignore me.


Your Sinkova advance was bullshit.

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I hope the Ukrainians are smart enough to not end up in a pocket (cauldron) because that's what this is starting to look like


Yesterday already alot of russian soldiers were converging around the area, wich has 7.5 km diameter, but no encirclement atm, just a standard penetration ^_^
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Aug 26 2023 01:51pm
Quote (ferdia @ Aug 26 2023 08:36pm)
thank you for clarifying ( i defer to your statement ). humbly now, What aspect of my statements relating to NS2 are false ?

but what do you mean by not used for political reasons ?



Quote (Djunior @ Aug 26 2023 09:28pm)
TBH I think that everyone here knows that NS 2 was never used because of US pressure. Officially the procedure was ongoing IIRC because your government was hesitant to simply cut their losses and rightfully so ($10B+ project)

e: Also it's clear the goal was to destroy all pipelines, why would the attackers have spared one of the individual pipelines. They must have ran out of time / air / whatever


https://www.state.gov/imposition-of-sanctions-in-connection-with-nord-stream-2/

That was prior to the war.

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Your Sinkova advance was bullshit.

Yesterday already alot of russian soldiers were converging around the area, wich has 7.5 km diameter, but no encirclement atm, just a standard penetration ^_^


Robotyne has been a complete bloodbath for Ukrainian troops with masses of armor destroyed. There's nothing to celebrate
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Aug 26 2023 02:03pm
Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 26 2023 09:51pm)


And here it says that Germany halted the NS 2 project on 22nd of February 2022 https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germanys-scholz-halts-nord-stream-2-certification-2022-02-22/

Until that decision the project was not officially closed.
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