Based on what evidence?

if you think that post is a 180 of my position, you clearly lack basic reading comprehension. i challenge you to go back to the NS2 thread and read my first posts on who i think could be responsible for it...

that's the issue with kremlin bots constantly straw-manning their opposition, you don't even know our real positions, lol...

his own wishful thinking, obviously.

the more time passes, the less i think the US is directly behind it. the risk-reward calculation simply doesn't add up - and unlike ukraine, they have a whole hive of coldly calculating analysts, experienced in sabotage and the dark arts of "diplomacy", which would have told them there simply isn't a need or a major benefit to sabotaging a close ally's infrastructure - an action that would inevitably result in major diplomatic ramifications if uncovered.

still possible ofc, it's not like they haven't made some major miscalculations in recent decades, but to suggest it's equally likely as pootin having murdered prigoshin, is of course absurd. but hey, kremlin bots gonna kremlin bot...

Hey the US said Ukraine did it, are you saying the US lied about it ? This is a Yes or No question. Also i did suggest we move on from NS2 but you seem to still want to talk about it ?

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 26 2023 09:19am

I'm fine with people stating what they think happened. But when they are pushing a narrative and claiming it is fact, that's when its unacceptable.
Its a common thread with pro authoritarian posters in PARD, constantly asserting a narrative with no evidence and strawmanning anyone that calls them out.

I've realised that the truth is not a constant to these people; Pushing an unproven narrative is straight up much easier for them.
Very little debate in good faith with people that don't observe the truth.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Aug 26 2023 09:21am

Whatever it was Us, Ukraine, or Russia does not change the course of the war anyway.


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This post was edited by Meanwhile on Aug 26 2023 09:50am

Aha, so you agreed all along that Russia didn't do this. So you agree the perpetrators should be prosecuted and it should have major diplomatic consequences right?





Same question for you. Major diplomatic consequences for the perpetrators whether it be Russia or Ukraine, right?



No no no, no backing out of this

Perpetrators should be held accountable in a court of law and major diplomatic consequences, right?

LMK

BTW regarding the carefully selected sanctions that were going to cripple Russia (statement made a couple days ago)

I told you don't quote me, I'm not interested in conversing with you anymore. You only avoid simple questions and respond with insults.

Stop quoting me.

"war cannot be ended with rationale decisions" like, a ceasefire, or diplomacy. Well we know that, the US has refused all attempts by Russia at diplomacy.