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Apr 5 2022 06:28am
Quote (Norlander @ Apr 5 2022 02:26pm)
They will continue buying gas untill the contract is over (2025) then will try to keep as much as possible in their gas storage facilities while building atomic power plants (by UK or France, takes about 10 years). So it's gonna be 7 years of overpriced gas.


this is wrong unfortunately, the german government wants to quit nuclear no matter what

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Quote (ferdia @ Apr 5 2022 08:09am)
What do you think Germany is going to ultimately do (or be asked to and do, by the EU) re: gas from Russia? I personally do not have the faintest idea on this.


They will slowly reduce dependency on Russian gas, hoping for the war to end so they can still continue to buy without the 'image' costs. There's a lot of rhetoric but in reality you have a lot of reluctant Euros when it comes to this. Germany, Netherlands, Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria, etc.

Transitioning away is also not cost free. I think there's this notion that well we'll just get gas from somewhere else and life goes on. That gas is going to cost a lot more compared to Russian gas. It costs a lot more to get LNG brought all the way from the US. It costs more to transport and build pipelines from North Africa all the way to northern countries like Germany simply because of geographical proximity. All of this will be happening in countries that democratically elect their politicians. When prices go up, people get upset and protest, probably voting politicians out, sometimes taking to the streets. There's a fair amount of European countries already scrambling right now to subsidize oil prices because people are starting to protest. At the end of the day I think it's going to be tremendously difficult for Europe to decouple from Russian commodities.
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Apr 5 2022 06:34am
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this is wrong unfortunately, the german government wants to quit nuclear no matter what


Why should anyone quit using the most "green" (when secured) source of energy?

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 5 2022 06:39am
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Why should anyone quit the most "green" (when secured) source of energy?


because they are retarded

these green party morons control the public discourse in germany and they would rather use coal or just cause a massive blackout and destroy our industry (even more) before returning to nuclear power

they just refuse to realise that most of the world and literally all major powers are investing into nuclear power

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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 4 2022 03:02am)
You should know about how tens of thousands were killed during during Obama's "no fly zone" in Libya. You should know how thousands more were killed during the US airstrikes on ISIS in Syria, which were often indiscriminate.


US airstrikes on ISIS? US worked more with ISIS than against them.
Often times US air force was bombing Assad army targets in tandem with ISIS ground attacks, in effect giving air support for ISIS attacks.
The US also sheltered ISIS members east of Euphrates and prevented Iran allied paramilitaries from persuing them there to eliminate them, in effect prolonging the lifeline of ISIS by at least a year.
It was pro Iran forces with support from Russia that defeated ISIS that was deliberately nurtured by USA.
A few strikes here and there toward the end of ISIS's life and Trump wanted to claim credit for ISIS defeat :rolleyes:
Of course this not covered by the press of the free and open democratic society that wants to world police :rolleyes:
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Apr 5 2022 01:42pm)
because they are retarded

these green party morons control the public discourse in germany and they would rather use coal or just cause a massive blackout and destroy our industry (even more) before returning to nuclear power

they just refuse to realise that most of the world and literally all major powers are investing into nuclear power


I agree with this.

in terms of Russian gas, if the EU wants to move away from Russia, I can see the russians simply switching their customers. like a milkman. if someone does not buy the milk, someone else will.
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Apr 5 2022 07:35am
There's no doubt to have about war crimes commited by Russian Army; their soldiers are doing prostitution business of young conscripts, so loot, rape, and assassination is not a surprise.
These savages must be neutralized.

/e Maybe they have been instructed to rape Ukrainian women, like in Germany ww2.
Btw a sign of kindness would have them to rape their own conscripts ^_^

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 5 2022 07:41am
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Apr 5 2022 08:08am
its not hate speech but thats pretty close.

ultimately when weaving through this topic it has to be acknowledged that this is a war we are talking about and in war people die. When you look at the millions of displaced, the dead, the war crimes etc. it is part of the parcel that people across the board will be angry and mad about what is happening and will voice their views, including radical views, now and then, here and there. This includes lashing out. and again, this is normal. I am not condoning it, i just understand it.

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its not hate speech but thats pretty close.

ultimately when weaving through this topic it has to be acknowledged that this is a war we are talking about and in war people die. When you look at the millions of displaced, the dead, the war crimes etc. it is part of the parcel that people across the board will be angry and mad about what is happening and will voice their views, including radical views, now and then, here and there. and again, this is normal. I am not condoning it, i just understand it.


It's just a beginning, unfortunately.



This is Russia, Russia for sad people, no choice, no changes.

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Quote (Santara @ Apr 5 2022 04:47am)
Revenue has remained relatively constant, even when we've kept cutting taxes. Lowers the threshold for cost-to-benefit of tax avoidance strategies.

We kept up defense spending even after the Cold War ended. We also spent like a drunken sailor with the Social Security surpluses on Great Society projects. Those surpluses are gone, and the Great Society is a monumental failure that we're still paying for.


We allowed companies to merge to basically infinity. There is no lower threshold for cost-to-benefit when they are as large as they are now. Even if they are only saving 0.01% the profit is so massive that it warrants a team of lawyers to save.

We also used welfare to subsidize those companies wages, instead of making them pay a living wage and benefits. We still have a garbage healthcare system purely to subsidize hospitals, pharma companies, and insurance companies even though the most conservative estimates say we would say hundreds of billions a year with even a generous national plan. We got rid of systems that worked amazingly, like a lot of what the post office did, for the same reason.

We spent like a drunken sailor on everything that pumped up corporations instead of the public good because a segment of the population (mostly boomers) wanted their pensions and retirement accounts to keep growing faster. Now we're living with the results. A fundamentally broken system with crumbling infrastructure and nobody willing to sacrifice for the greater good.
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