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Aug 25 2023 04:04pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 25 Aug 2023 23:50)
of course some random dipshit frenchie with no life can only make fun of this

millions of germans and thousands of businesses are not having fun, they are one gas bill away from bankruptcy


Don't compare pipes sabotage with a terror attack, it is so deshumanizing comparison.
Not to mention this action only triggered a little increase of natural gas price for a very limited time:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=650305450.
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Aug 25 2023 04:05pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Aug 25 2023 11:57pm)
Their own damn fault. Don't over expose your business model to cheap gas supply from a country that is essentially a mafia state.

How ironically not prudent.


both true and false at the same time

quitting nuclear and the climate hysteria made cheap gas the only remaining alternative, massive mistake

however russia/soviet union delivered for decades and they would have continued to do so, but washington decided that this cant continue

its an official policy of the united states to prevent the german and russian economies from being too close
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Aug 25 2023 04:06pm
Quote (ferdia @ 26 Aug 2023 05:55)
There was a lecture from Rory Stewart recently and it seemed to cover the same topic. i will look at this tomorrow.


Link please
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Aug 25 2023 04:07pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 26 2023 12:04am)
Don't compare pipes sabotage with a terror attack, it is so deshumanizing comparison.
Not to mention this action only triggered a little increase of natural gas price for a very limited time:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=650305450.


you are such a dumb person

attacking/sabotaging critical infrastructure of a country is the definition of terror, literally the definition
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Aug 25 2023 04:10pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Aug 25 2023 10:50pm)
of course some random dipshit frenchie with no life can only make fun of this

millions of germans and thousands of businesses are not having fun, they are one gas bill away from bankruptcy


This was discussed previously and a video was posted. Ultimately the war and US de-globalization has hit Germany the hardest out of any country noting their economy was reliant on international trade, to which the roads are now being closed. Germany has a strong foundation so they should be able to find a way out of their predicament, but as you said, a lot of them are feeling the pinch and it wont resolve itself,or be resolved, for years to come. to reiterate again, there is a really good reason for Germans to feel hard done by here.

1. Infrastructure destroyed by an "ally".
2. Foreign army bases in their country that they cant get rid of.
3. Entire economic plan uplifted resulting in Germany having to find a new "plan".
4. Cost of living crisis.

The natural consequence is a shift to the right and alot of unhappy (and poor) Germans. Not a good mix.

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 25 2023 04:10pm
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Aug 25 2023 04:11pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Aug 25 2023 11:06pm)
Link please


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Aug 25 2023 04:12pm
Quote (ferdia @ 26 Aug 2023 06:11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCSlNrI4nhY


thanks watching it .
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Aug 25 2023 04:16pm
Quote (ferdia @ 26 Aug 2023 06:11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCSlNrI4nhY


The First 2 Mins, he already pointed out the problems of Sub Sahara Africa and Sahel Region.
Which was also mentioned in Fukuyama's Political Order and Political Decay.

And he wasn't even talking about Africa.
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Aug 25 2023 04:58pm
Quote (ferdia @ 25 Aug 2023 21:55)
The consequences of NS2 (i.e. the energy crisis in europe) is well in excess of 10B btw.


that's such an ignorant take, lol.
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the timeline was not:

NS is blown up -> europe can't get any gas through it, even though they desperately want to -> has to look for new, more expensive suppliers, which causes major economic damage

it was:

pootin attacks ukraine -> europe scales down energy imports from russia as a response, likely to phase them out completely -> NS2, which isn't even transporting any gas to europe, gets blown up

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pootin's WAR, and europe's subsequent decision to boycott russian energy caused the price hike and the economic damage resulting from it, not the blowing up of NS2.

and again, if we have solid proof the ukrainians or americans did it, both options of course still possible, there should be consequences. but the kremlin bot narrative "couldn't have been russia because it was so profitable for them" is complete bs. at the time it was blown up, NS2 was already dead for years to come. that is a simple and easily verifiable FACT.
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Aug 25 2023 05:01pm
Quote (fender @ Aug 25 2023 07:58pm)
that's such an ignorant take, lol.
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the timeline was not:

NS is blown up -> europe can't get any gas through it, even though they desperately want to -> has to look for new, more expensive suppliers, which causes major economic damage

it was:

pootin attacks ukraine -> europe scales down energy imports from russia as a response, likely to phase them out completely -> NS2, which isn't even transporting any gas to europe, gets blown up

_________________________________________


pootin's WAR, and europe's subsequent decision to boycott russian energy caused the price hike and the economic damage resulting from it, not the blowing up of NS2.

and again, if we have solid proof the ukrainians or americans did it, both options of course still possible, there should be consequences. but the kremlin bot narrative "couldn't have been russia because it was so profitable for them" is complete bs. at the time it was blown up, NS2 was already dead for years to come. that is a simple and easily verifiable FACT.


Lol does anyone actually read this clowns rants?
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