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Aug 24 2023 08:24am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 24 Aug 2023 16:15)
^ofthevoid , ^malopox, ^djunior, ^ferdia

I believe Prigozhin death, is 100% ordered by Putin. What do you guys think ?


Could be. So what? He’s dead.
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Quote (Djunior @ 24 Aug 2023 22:20)
Most likely yes. But who knows what really happened


Another thing, I have a gut feeling he was on call with Xi Jinping in regards to this. There is a news where Xi Jinping disappeared for quite a while during Brics meeting in South Africa.

But views is this.

1. Putin ordered his death.
2. Russia Hawks who are already enemies of Prigozhin ordered his death behind Putin's back.
3. Ukraine operations in Russia did it.

First 1 and 2 is most likely.

NATO / CIA is out of question completely.

Quote (Malopox @ 24 Aug 2023 22:24)
Could be. So what? He’s dead.


Might be used as an excuse to escalate stuff. I dunno. Getting messier by the day. This is horrible for all sides.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 24 2023 08:25am
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 24 Aug 2023 16:06)
It's similar in principle to this certain subset (!) of muslims who come to the West, allegedly because they're fleeing the violence and prosecution in their countries of origin, but then immediately start their attempts at establishing and spreading islamism once they're here.


Or those who were born in the West, are criticizing it constantly, but are strangely not leaving. A mix in-between deceit and stupidity.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Aug 24 2023 04:24pm)
Another thing, I have a gut feeling he was on call with Xi Jinping in regards to this. There is a news where Xi Jinping disappeared for quite a while during Brics meeting in South Africa.

But views is this.

1. Putin ordered his death.
2. Russia Hawks who are already enemies of Prigozhin ordered his death behind Putin's back.
3. Ukraine operations in Russia did it.

First 1 and 2 is most likely.

NATO / CIA is out of question completely.


Well, Wagner was already being disbanded, stripped of their heavy weapons / Wagner recruits absorbed into the ranks of the Russian army.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ 24 Aug 2023 16:25)
Or those who were born in the West, are criticizing it constantly, but are strangely not leaving. A mix in-between deceit and stupidity.

You can't seriously expect people to leave the country/place where they were born and raised, where they have friends, family, jobs or even houses, all just because they disagree with the political direction of their country.
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Quote (Malopox @ Aug 24 2023 10:24am)
Could be. So what? He’s dead.


There’s a non zero chance that he’s not dead and is hidden in some backwater African compound with both Wagner and Putin/Russian power structure basically telling him you live out your existence off grid somewhere but we make it look like you’re dead as a ‘show’ what happens to traitors.

This is pure speculation but none of us know without a doubt that he was actually on that plane.

Ultimately it doesn’t really matter if he is or not. Wagner leadership will probably be replaced because they’re a useful tool and life will go on as before. I keep saying this, we try to make sense of the world by basically looking through a very limited prism and thinking we have a full and accurate view. We don’t know, we’re just too distant. All of us in this thread are basically playing a game of telephone, with some maybe being slightly better at discerning the nonsense.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 24 Aug 2023 22:36)
You can't seriously expect people to leave the country/place where they were born and raised, where they have friends, family, jobs or even houses, all just because they disagree with the political direction of their country.


Dude he is a Neo Fascist, you engaged him for 3k Pages, I am sure by now you would understand his Modus Operandi
If he is being put into a position of power he would have done whatever Hitler would have done to minorities and the Jewish community ( Just an Example)

But I wouldn't put him in the same tier as Hitler though, he comes across more of a modern Joseph Goebbels.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 24 2023 08:44am
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Quote (Djunior @ Aug 24 2023 07:01am)
reported


Totally supportive of RU invasion of Ukraine but offended by words on JSP.
True beta R troll.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 24 2023 04:47pm)
Totally supportive of RU invasion of Ukraine but offended by words on JSP.
True beta R troll.


lol

The person in question is quietly reporting everyone here at every given opportunity and I'm that guy giving him some of his own medicine

e: And I'm not hiding like true beta trolls like him or you

This post was edited by Djunior on Aug 24 2023 08:50am
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Quote (Djunior @ Aug 24 2023 07:49am)
lol

The person in question is quietly reporting everyone here at every given opportunity and I'm that guy giving him some of his own medicine

e: And I'm not hiding like true beta trolls like him or you


oooh tough guy keep reporting
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