see , this is how you put forward a debate/arguement - i can agree with this

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 17 2023 02:10pm

China decided to stop publishing its youth unemployement numbers.

unreal how there is double digit unemployment among certain groups and so much work out there

laziness does play a role, but its also true that in places like france or germany its mathematically not worth it to work, if you earn under a certain threshold

you cant expect people to not catch up to this

No society can prevail with 21% youth unemployment for a long duration. The icing on the cake is that China followed 1-child politicy, so even though they have less youth than generations before, they're still unemployed (a big f***ing time bomb for Xi). I disagree about French. They aren't lazy people. They don't see the point of overworking themselves with no real improvement of living conditions. More people are waking up to this in the US and EU or the rest of the western world. There is a reason French revolution happened in France which birthed modern democracies you guys are so proud of. We need more of that French spirit, not the Meanwhile or the cuckhold version of following the USA to its grave.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Aug 17 2023 03:14pm

Pretty massive increase from only a few years. Will we never see the 2024 numbers now? Who knows if they'll be faked

the Chinese youth do not accept the totalitarian regime where every single thing they do is controlled, what they hear and see is controlled, what they're allowed to say is controlled. They don't want to work 14 hours a day with no entertainment allowed. They want to be able to see memes and make jokes, not be forced to study every waking hour.

I like to rag on the West how our TikTok is just mindless nonsense & sexual content while their TikTok is just purely no nonsense educational content, but it's clear that we need a balance between the two. Chaos and Order together in harmony as opposed to forced order by violent oppression or forced chaos by oligarchic anarchotyranical diktat.

Totally demoralized IMO. The older generation of Chinese have a strong motivation and support for the totalitarian state because they want a strong China to protect themselves against foreign aggression. The young people want an actual society where arts and culture can flourish

If you have as example 10% with really good conditions for unemployed to compare with 6% with really bad conditions for unemployed, then for sure it's better to take care before jumping on conclusions.



following what i'm saying above, it has to be investigated deeper:

So in china it evolves in the wrong direction (while youth Un. Rate is already inferior and continue to decrease in EU AND while welfare/comfort are maximum at world level)
And it even has a name attached to it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_ping

I suspect there's a really big problem and CCP is hidding it. Very possible they (ccp) are falsifying even more economic indicators than expected.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Aug 17 2023 03:25pm

I mean there is a drastic difference in the perception of what constitutes good work between France vs Germany even though they are neighbours - Germans being known for having a high work ethic and French for having a low work ethic.

The constant rioting, neglection of personal hygiene, and having such a low retirement age are all evidence of the poor work ethic of the French. It's very well known that France has a poor work ethic, same with Italy, Greece and other similar nations.

Not to say that France is not Great. France is nearly the perfect of example of high culture where it is still revered today. Where France succeeds in art, literature, and opulent extravagance they fall short in no-nonsense utilitarianism and work ethic (prevalent in Protestant nations such as Britain, Prussia (Germany), Netherlands, Nordic nations)

I would also disagree that the French revolution was the impetus for modern democracies - that was in fact the English Civil War in the 1600s where the Parliamentarians were victorious - from that point onwards absolute monarchies were on their way out across the West

This post was edited by El1te on Aug 17 2023 03:25pm

You means Obesity rate ?

/e or productivity per hour ?



France is in-between Anglo-Saxons, Latin, North, South...

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Aug 17 2023 03:56pm

I don't care in the slightest that they're unhappy with the framework. They made their bed and now they have to sleep in it. Have they tried not being shitty neighbors?

French people are not as obese as most other Western countries so they have that going for them, which is pretty good tbh as the bar now is so low