xD i cant see it (any more). probably just the same old insults and no meaningful discussion.

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 17 2023 09:28am

With the failed attempt to seize Ukraine Putin made the biggest mistake not only for his personal future, or even Russia's future, but for the whole authoritarian block.
It's a bit like a reverse dominoes theory he started and so on: Ukraine's fate is directly linked with US security considering that oh well... This will allow to 100% focuse against the CCP entity.

I have no idea what this means Meanwhile. I thought the "CCP" you referred to is China ?
Also, Ukraine's fate is NOT directly linked with US security and...
The war with Russia means that the US will now be incapable of focusing 100% on China, for decades to come.

You are right about dominoes though. The war in Ukraine has potentially created a domino effect around the world of anti-western sentiment, which compounds and confounds this notion of 100% focus on China.

They still can deal with China.....if they break faith with Ukraine within the next year or so.

But there will be so much LOL in this thread.

I think they can go against China while giving Ukraine aid. i mean, its only money right ? I do not see the US changing their tune any time soon, especially with elections next year (its a known fact that elections leads to more sabre rattling in the US - you can google this notion).

Biden just insulted Hawaiians with a 700 USD for the disaster while approving another 350m I believe to Ukraine and Elections is next year.

Unless the USA recognize Taiwan as a Sovereign State, China won't take the bait.

Most likely a conflict will happen in the South China seas with Philippines which the US have full authority to get involved due to defense pact.

If a proxy war with China starts there will be a completel blackout of trade with the West straightaway. The repercussions, you think about it.
You can't do it if you haven't at least decouple with China around 60 to 70%

Okay, np, you can follow your own thoughts...

Btw I have to specify something / correcting a bit myself;
Putin's mistake is not a bad thing for the russian people who could be ultimately liberated after centuries of slavery and submission.
/e in hope he's not sending everyone to the meat grinder before (i think not)

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Aug 17 2023 10:09am

another "L" monkaboi
France Imports from Russia was US$15.86 Billion during 2022
funding the war effort
https://tradingeconomics.com/france/imports/russia

Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products $14.22B => France like many others countries imported alot of oil and gas up to winter 2022 to build reserves. Now it's all over.

https://tradingeconomics.com/france/imports-from-russia

go back to your monosyllabic topic(s).

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Aug 17 2023 10:13am

It is widely known that in the event of Putin dying/killed or w/e, in virtually no scenario will the Russian people be "liberated". Putin has locked up, exiled or killed all moderates and the Russian state is utterly corrupt. We are not going to get a Navalny or Kasparov, we are going to get a dictator who is going to have a big grudge against the West, for decades. Look at Cuba and how the US treats them. That was due to events more then 50 years ago. Do you think Russia is going to be as forgiving as the US ?

you said this:



you will probably want to clarify your definition of the "whole authoritarian block" noting some of those are pro-american, are you suggesting the US will attack its own allies?

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 17 2023 10:24am