If they're all "easily exposed as fakes," then you should be able to knock them out in short order. Let's start with this joint project of the Arizona State University and an American think tank - not British: https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/11/russia-wagner-group-methods-bouta-killing-report/

If I were gullible, I'd believe you were telling the truth.

Putin is a dictator, of course he's evil. That doesn't make the Russian people bad, but until they clean their house, they're (you're) complicit.

A handful of billionaires (including Putin) run Russia, you can't possibly expect your point to be above reproach.



Pointing out hypocrisy is what I did - by showing that Putin's Nazi buddies are carrying forward his foreign policy, so complaining about Putin attacking Ukraine over some Nazis there is fucking preposterous. Take off the clown shoes. What YOU did was try to deflect from my accurate criticism.

now you're just outright lying. not only are YOU the one insulting ME ("piece of shit" - something i certainly never said about myself. you're the one calling me that, being "toxic" here - so stop clutching your pearls, hypocrite). i haven't been toxic or rude at all in this conversation, i merely pointed out some FACTS concerning trump's actions regarding ukraine and russia. you're obviously free to ignore me however much you want, but it's quite obvious that in this instance you're doing it because your position was comprehensively debunked. the reality of trump's actions concerning ukraine and russia fundamentally opposes your chosen narrative.

you might have fooled a lot of people with your soft and spongy approach towards kremlin narratives, but don't think your constant bothsidesisms (from the blame of starting this war in the first place to war crimes committed) and "misremembering" of widely reported actions and statements, could deceive someone who's paying attention.

that's why you "don't mind" supporting outright russian propaganda implying that donbass is legally russian territory (it just isn't, that's not how international law works), and that ukrainians are "terrorists" or "aggressors" for fighting off russian occupiers in ukrainian territory.

you're one of the worst here. comrade.

At the end of the day, Russia invaded Ukraine, and not the other way around. While Ukraine is not absolved of committing crimes in this fight, they didn't start it, and that makes them infinitely more likeable than the Russians

We (or at least, I) don't frame it as good versus evil. I posted about Ukrainian soldiers shooting Russian POWs in the legs, have consistently opposed a no fly zone, acknowledge a lot of pro-Ukrainian propaganda exists, etc

The difference between me and you is, I look at the whole picture and make a judgement based on known evidence, whereas you form an opinion based on your clear pro-Russian bias and cobble together excuses or potential justifications for their actions

As soon as the Kremlin and Russian state propaganda comes out with something, Chopdickz isn't far behind: https://twitter.com/francska1/status/1510993878018670595

MI6 wouldn't be placing corpses around Ukraine. We would never put polonium 210 in a man's cup of tea either - it would be desecration of a perfectly good cup of tea

This post was edited by dro94 on Apr 4 2022 01:32pm

i will take a page from your playbook and ask you relating to an extract of your stream of stupid, where did i support the narrative that donbass is legally russian territory? feel free not to respond (because you wont find it). IN THE MEANTIME i will go back over your posts, find your toxic self confession and repost it when i find it (somwhere in the last 100 pages).

if some one wants to look between 1-50 pages, i will take 51-133.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 4 2022 01:47pm

Oh wait ? Putin is just defending himself right ?

The pentagon came out today saying they can't confirm or deny Ukrainian claims about Bucha. UN is calling for an independent probe (the reason if it's not obvious is because in times of war things like this could be staged as to elicit some sort of international response or maybe Russia really did it and the UN wants their own proof not 2nd hand proof, remember "Assad used chemical weapons" claims by the rebels?). Russia has denied the claims. These are the facts as of today. I've seen at this point an Ukrainian armed forces video entering Bucha, talking to civilians on camera PRIOR (verifiable by their upload time on youtube) to the claims being made and none of the people reporting any of these atrocities nor were there any visible bodies littered on streets. But at this point, like goom said, no one really knows what happened, definitely neither of us know as we're thousands of miles away basically looking at 2nd hand sourcing.

Meanwhile before facts are even known you already decided that the Ukrainian claims are true and those were literal unarmed civilians and they just shot them for no other reason other than unjustified cruelty and nothing else because if they let them go they would run and report on the Russian positions. Okay. I'm just kind of confused how in time of war, when we've already experienced such obvious and blatant propaganda from both sides, you don't take at least a moment to question stuff. Like why do you think the ghost of kiev or snake island faded so fast out of social media or any news mentions? Let me guess, they'd lie about those things but never about this now right?



https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/28/europe/snake-island-ukraine-russia-survivors-alive-intl/index.html

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 4 2022 02:00pm

Approx. 250 Ukrainian soldiers reportedly surrendered in Mariupol: https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1511059121067511814

This would suggest that Ukrainian forces in Mariupol are running low on food, water and ammo

Whether you like it or not, truth and justice are on Russia's side, at-least in regards to Ukraine.

As for the Bucha false flag, those people were murdered by Ukraine. Moon of Alabama covers it well: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/the-bucha-provocation.html#more



You see, if you'd bother to do your research on things like this then the true sequence of events would be clear to you.