Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 2 2021 06:28pm)
We have video evidence of a lot of people saying dumb things. We have have BLM protesters chanting for dead cops NOW. We obviously don't charge those people with attempted murder, nor do we suspect them of orchestrating a plot to kill police.
I suspect that if the FBI had evidence of a concrete plot to overthrow the government of the United States, that we'd have heard about it well before now. If goes without saying that people who are prepared to kill members of Congress are prepared to kill the people protecting them. And yet we have zero recorded attempts to kill a police officer. We have people arrested for fighting with cops when they had knives on them. The only guy (to my knowledge) who was arrested for having a gun wasn't even in the Capitol, but decided to walk around the grounds. A violent riot in the nation's center of government is unacceptable, and it should be condemned proportionately. But Nancy Pelosi has NYT journalists labeling 74 million people as "enemies of the state". That's incredibly dangerous stuff.
I think if those people assaulted a cop while chanting dead cops NOW, you absolutely could and should charge them with attempted murder. As I said before, most people were just misguided fools attending a protest. Those people are fine and can be ignored. A significantly smaller portion were rioters who simply got caught up in the moment. Charge those people appropriately. An even smaller portion are ACTUAL insurrectionists who foolishly thought that they could succeed. Frankly, if I had it my way, we would execute them and their families but our justice system leaves a lot to be desired these days.
You're someone who understands history. Do you think everyone involved with the Russian revolution was a brilliant ideologue who loved Marxism? Of course not. All you need is a few people to rile up a crowd and the cards fall where they fall. Fortunately for us, these actual insurrections were unprepared, small in number, and highly inexperienced.
Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 2 2021 06:42pm)
They died of strokes and suicide. They weren't hit by bricks.
Keep lying to yourself.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
Quote (excellence @ Aug 2 2021 06:35pm)
Per the military, fbi, cia, and local police forces, they had like a month’s advance notice of the attempted occupation of the capital. So uh, why were no preventative security measures taken???
EXCELLENT QUESTION!!! That's why we need a fucking committee! Why the fuck were they so unprepared for this? Many people need to face consequences and be fired.
Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 2 2021 06:18pm)
They were so dumb as to not bring guns, or try a second time and basically gave up after a few hours. Gotcha makes absolute sense, if this is what an insurrection looks like in the US in the 21th century, you're safe.
Lol indicating their intent. Your sense of discernment leaves a lot to be desired, but then again you've been dick riding Trump for the last 5 years clinging to hyperbolic accusations, at least you're consistent with the pearl clutching.
You must have me confused with someone else. I only became anti-Trump when he did some truly unforgivable things later in his presidency. Hell, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 because I didn't find him conservative enough!
I think one of the things you truly struggle with is that you're only looking at the end result and not looking at each individual step. Tell me, what would have happened if the rioters didn't follow Eugene Goodman's lead? There's an incredibly fine line between what happened that day to a full blown hostage situation and/or deaths of several members of Congress. History is full of examples of close calls and it's honestly shocking that you're struggling this much.
I 100% agree with you that we are safe from Americans overthrowing the government. Only a select few in our military are seasoned enough to cause serious damage. Americans are incredibly soft and in a way, that's a good thing. Hard times create hard people and soft times create soft people. Like I said before, these people are so fucking stupid that they uploaded HUNDREDS of videos of them committing crimes! That's the level of intellect that we're dealing with! However, that doesn't mean that what happened on Jan 6 should be normalized in any way. You need to nip it in the bud or else you will eventually become a 3rd world shithole.