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Aug 2 2021 07:54pm
i alwys say keep a record of everything. because when a leftie fraud is exposed they will just try it again later

something the fraud commission will never show
What MSM Won't Show You!!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/h0y7UrRXw7jf/

this fraud commission is just the trump impeachment fraud reworked.

just like this thread is a reworking of the fraud "trumpers tearing down DC" thread
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84483633&f=119

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Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 2 2021 06:28pm)
We have video evidence of a lot of people saying dumb things. We have have BLM protesters chanting for dead cops NOW. We obviously don't charge those people with attempted murder, nor do we suspect them of orchestrating a plot to kill police.

I suspect that if the FBI had evidence of a concrete plot to overthrow the government of the United States, that we'd have heard about it well before now. If goes without saying that people who are prepared to kill members of Congress are prepared to kill the people protecting them. And yet we have zero recorded attempts to kill a police officer. We have people arrested for fighting with cops when they had knives on them. The only guy (to my knowledge) who was arrested for having a gun wasn't even in the Capitol, but decided to walk around the grounds. A violent riot in the nation's center of government is unacceptable, and it should be condemned proportionately. But Nancy Pelosi has NYT journalists labeling 74 million people as "enemies of the state". That's incredibly dangerous stuff.


I think if those people assaulted a cop while chanting dead cops NOW, you absolutely could and should charge them with attempted murder. As I said before, most people were just misguided fools attending a protest. Those people are fine and can be ignored. A significantly smaller portion were rioters who simply got caught up in the moment. Charge those people appropriately. An even smaller portion are ACTUAL insurrectionists who foolishly thought that they could succeed. Frankly, if I had it my way, we would execute them and their families but our justice system leaves a lot to be desired these days.

You're someone who understands history. Do you think everyone involved with the Russian revolution was a brilliant ideologue who loved Marxism? Of course not. All you need is a few people to rile up a crowd and the cards fall where they fall. Fortunately for us, these actual insurrections were unprepared, small in number, and highly inexperienced.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 2 2021 06:42pm)
They died of strokes and suicide. They weren't hit by bricks.

Keep lying to yourself.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Quote (excellence @ Aug 2 2021 06:35pm)
Per the military, fbi, cia, and local police forces, they had like a month’s advance notice of the attempted occupation of the capital. So uh, why were no preventative security measures taken???

EXCELLENT QUESTION!!! That's why we need a fucking committee! Why the fuck were they so unprepared for this? Many people need to face consequences and be fired.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 2 2021 06:18pm)
They were so dumb as to not bring guns, or try a second time and basically gave up after a few hours. Gotcha makes absolute sense, if this is what an insurrection looks like in the US in the 21th century, you're safe.

Lol indicating their intent. Your sense of discernment leaves a lot to be desired, but then again you've been dick riding Trump for the last 5 years clinging to hyperbolic accusations, at least you're consistent with the pearl clutching.


You must have me confused with someone else. I only became anti-Trump when he did some truly unforgivable things later in his presidency. Hell, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 because I didn't find him conservative enough!

I think one of the things you truly struggle with is that you're only looking at the end result and not looking at each individual step. Tell me, what would have happened if the rioters didn't follow Eugene Goodman's lead? There's an incredibly fine line between what happened that day to a full blown hostage situation and/or deaths of several members of Congress. History is full of examples of close calls and it's honestly shocking that you're struggling this much.

I 100% agree with you that we are safe from Americans overthrowing the government. Only a select few in our military are seasoned enough to cause serious damage. Americans are incredibly soft and in a way, that's a good thing. Hard times create hard people and soft times create soft people. Like I said before, these people are so fucking stupid that they uploaded HUNDREDS of videos of them committing crimes! That's the level of intellect that we're dealing with! However, that doesn't mean that what happened on Jan 6 should be normalized in any way. You need to nip it in the bud or else you will eventually become a 3rd world shithole.
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Quote (thundercock @ Aug 2 2021 07:28pm)
I think if those people assaulted a cop while chanting dead cops NOW, you absolutely could and should charge them with attempted murder. As I said before, most people were just misguided fools attending a protest. Those people are fine and can be ignored. A significantly smaller portion were rioters who simply got caught up in the moment. Charge those people appropriately. An even smaller portion are ACTUAL insurrectionists who foolishly thought that they could succeed. Frankly, if I had it my way, we would execute them and their families but our justice system leaves a lot to be desired these days.

You're someone who understands history. Do you think everyone involved with the Russian revolution was a brilliant ideologue who loved Marxism? Of course not. All you need is a few people to rile up a crowd and the cards fall where they fall. Fortunately for us, these actual insurrections were unprepared, small in number, and highly inexperienced.


Facts don't care about your feelings.


EXCELLENT QUESTION!!! That's why we need a fucking committee! Why the fuck were they so unprepared for this? Many people need to face consequences and be fired.



You must have me confused with someone else. I only became anti-Trump when he did some truly unforgivable things later in his presidency. Hell, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 because I didn't find him conservative enough!

I think one of the things you truly struggle with is that you're only looking at the end result and not looking at each individual step. Tell me, what would have happened if the rioters didn't follow Eugene Goodman's lead? There's an incredibly fine line between what happened that day to a full blown hostage situation and/or deaths of several members of Congress. History is full of examples of close calls and it's honestly shocking that you're struggling this much.

I 100% agree with you that we are safe from Americans overthrowing the government. Only a select few in our military are seasoned enough to cause serious damage. Americans are incredibly soft and in a way, that's a good thing. Hard times create hard people and soft times create soft people. Like I said before, these people are so fucking stupid that they uploaded HUNDREDS of videos of them committing crimes! That's the level of intellect that we're dealing with! However, that doesn't mean that what happened on Jan 6 should be normalized in any way. You need to nip it in the bud or else you will eventually become a 3rd world shithole.


lol 4 years of Burn Loot and Murder but "what happened on Jan 6 should be normalized in any way. You need to nip it in the bud or else you will eventually become a 3rd world shithole"
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Quote (thundercock @ 2 Aug 2021 22:28)
EXCELLENT QUESTION!!! That's why we need a fucking committee! Why the fuck were they so unprepared for this? Many people need to face consequences and be fired.

we need a committee to investigate the cia, fbi, military, and local police in regards to the lax security protocols leading up to the event? agreed. it’ll never happen though the current committee is busy making up murders against the wannabe occupiers of the capitol.

the below will not be investigated, ever.

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-police-reject-federal-help-9c39a4ddef0ab60a48828a07e4d03380

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/capitol-riot-dc-national-guard-memo/2021/03/16/80949750-82de-11eb-bb5a-ad9a91faa4ef_story.html?outputType=amp
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Quote (excellence @ Aug 2 2021 08:15pm)
we need a committee to investigate the cia, fbi, military, and local police in regards to the lax security protocols leading up to the event? agreed. it’ll never happen though the current committee is busy making up murders against the wannabe occupiers of the capitol.

the below will not be investigated, ever.

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-police-reject-federal-help-9c39a4ddef0ab60a48828a07e4d03380

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/capitol-riot-dc-national-guard-memo/2021/03/16/80949750-82de-11eb-bb5a-ad9a91faa4ef_story.html?outputType=amp


We had the opportunity to do all that but Mitch said no :(

Now we get Pelosi's POV instead. Better than nothing if you ask me.
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Aug 2 2021 09:18pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 30 2021 11:15pm)
I look at this and think to myself if the people that even breached the building to do something violent, why did none of them actually follow through with anything, why did they all vacate the premise shortly after?

I don’t think violence was the goal, but violence happened man. Ashli Babbitt was shot dead & Rosanne Boyland was trampled to death. Brian Sicknick was maced in the face & had a stroke. The goal was to surround the capitol building, force their way in, & stop Congress from certifying the election. They [albeit temporarily] achieved that lol. I understand they realistically had virtually zero chance at actually succeeding indefinitely, but that doesn’t make what happened a nothing-burger. They still stormed the U.S capitol, people were killed, Congress was evacuated, the vote was halted. It was still mayhem that should have never happened. If the left did something like this, we’d sure have a problem with it, so we gotta call a spade a spade.
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Quote (thundercock @ Aug 2 2021 10:28pm)
You must have me confused with someone else. I only became anti-Trump when he did some truly unforgivable things later in his presidency. Hell, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 because I didn't find him conservative enough!

I think one of the things you truly struggle with is that you're only looking at the end result and not looking at each individual step. Tell me, what would have happened if the rioters didn't follow Eugene Goodman's lead? There's an incredibly fine line between what happened that day to a full blown hostage situation and/or deaths of several members of Congress. History is full of examples of close calls and it's honestly shocking that you're struggling this much.

I 100% agree with you that we are safe from Americans overthrowing the government. Only a select few in our military are seasoned enough to cause serious damage. Americans are incredibly soft and in a way, that's a good thing. Hard times create hard people and soft times create soft people. Like I said before, these people are so fucking stupid that they uploaded HUNDREDS of videos of them committing crimes! That's the level of intellect that we're dealing with! However, that doesn't mean that what happened on Jan 6 should be normalized in any way. You need to nip it in the bud or else you will eventually become a 3rd world shithole.


Agree to disagree on how close of a call this actually was. Actions to me speak louder than words. The fact that they were shouting dumb shit is not an indictment of how far they were willing to take things. In the end, they went home peacefully with none of them as far as we know looking to fulfill what they started subsequently. Like that matters a ton, not sure why you're glossing over it. If even a tiny percentage of these people were serious about an insurrection, lets say 1%, they had plenty of chances to attempt some sort of armed ambushes of politicians they disagreed with or whatever subsequently. If they are too soft to do that, it's safe to safe they were too soft to actually commit real violence in January.

Charge the people that committed crimes with what's appropriate and spare us the political theatre that's 100 % being pushed for maximum political damage to the other side. Like the messaging here is so crystal, you either oppose Trump (and republicans) or you support racists, sexists, fascists, Russian spies and now insurrections. It's the ultimate gutter politics.

Quote (IgoSoHard @ Aug 2 2021 11:18pm)
I don’t think violence was the goal, but violence happened man. Ashli Babbitt was shot dead & Rosanne Boyland was trampled to death. Brian Sicknick was maced in the face & had a stroke. The goal was to surround the capitol building, force their way in, & stop Congress from certifying the election. They [albeit temporarily] achieved that lol. I understand they realistically had virtually zero chance at actually succeeding indefinitely, but that doesn’t make what happened a nothing-burger. They still stormed the U.S capitol, people were killed, Congress was evacuated, the vote was halted. It was still mayhem that should have never happened. If the left did something like this, we’d sure have a problem with it, so we gotta call a spade a spade.


One person was killed. One, at the hands of a cop that shot her dead, not going to argue on whether it was justified or not because I don't know but that's what happened. I have no problem acknowledging there was violence and that storming the building was criminal and people should face repercussions. I do however have a problem with blown out of proportion political takes and investigations. This is Russiagate all over again. Create a narrative and who fucking cares if it's true or not or if even what's being portrayed is an accurate and unbiased account. I mean look at the spin now. The cop that died of natural causes was now murdered. Lol. Nope, this is not political at all and is an accurate saga of the events that took place!

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Quote (thundercock @ 2 Aug 2021 23:17)
We had the opportunity to do all that but Mitch said no :(

Now we get Pelosi's POV instead. Better than nothing if you ask me.

mitch was going to question his swamp demon allies why they had advanced knowledge of an attempt to occupy the capitol and they chose to provide minimal security ? haha good one, t-cock

how mitch is a so-called idiot who has no power yet he’s even better than Trump in managing to be an ‘evil mastermind capable of controlling everything’ will always be a puzzler
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Quote (excellence @ Aug 2 2021 08:25pm)
mitch was going to question his swamp demon allies why they had advanced knowledge of an attempt to occupy the capitol and they chose to provide minimal security ? haha good one, t-cock

how mitch is a so-called idiot who has no power yet he’s even better than Trump in managing to be an ‘evil mastermind capable of controlling everything’ will always be a puzzler


Who the fuck calls Mitch an idiot? Both him and Pelosi are some of the most skilled politicians we have which is why they are so hated.
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Quote (thundercock @ 2 Aug 2021 23:29)
Who the fuck calls Mitch an idiot? Both him and Pelosi are some of the most skilled politicians we have which is why they are so hated.

mccain and colbert, two democratic party heroes.

yes those two are incredibly skilled, that i will not deny.

either way, i don't see a case where mitch, even if he went along with a committee, would be questioning the aforementioned forces as to why security was lax when there was plenty of advanced intel on the potential for an attempt to occupy the capitol.
a wounded, defeated Trump basically throwing shit to the wall and seeing if it would stick so he could manage to somehow legally win the election is already known information.

kind of unnerving how our country will act immediately on faulty (or the absence of) intel, but as soon as we have legitimate intel we just sit on it and throw our hands up when something bad happens (9/11, boston bombers, attempted occupation of capitol, etc.)
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