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Mar 28 2016 07:07pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Mar 28 2016 08:59pm)
So, does choosing to have children or not require free will?

If not, you'll need to explain because I don't understand.
If yes, free will can exist without evil.


...evil already existed in the spiritual realm...Eve was tempted by evil , she did not create it .
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Mar 28 2016 07:14pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 29 Mar 2016 03:07)
...evil already existed in the spiritual realm...Eve was tempted by evil , she did not create it .


Sure, but in a universe devoid of evil (let's say after the final battle between good and evil) does the choice to have a child require free will?
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Mar 28 2016 07:23pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Mar 28 2016 09:14pm)
Sure, but in a universe devoid of evil (let's say after the final battle between good and evil) does the choice to have a child require free will?


...there will be no marriage or childbirth after the final defeat of evil , we will not be in human bodies but glorified ones .
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Mar 28 2016 07:25pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 29 Mar 2016 03:23)
...there will be no marriage or childbirth after the final defeat of evil , we will not be in human bodies but glorified ones .


There will be no children in New Jerusalem? (I believe that's the term, right?)
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Mar 28 2016 07:34pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Mar 28 2016 09:25pm)
There will be no children in New Jerusalem? (I believe that's the term, right?)


...the Millennial Kingdom ( New Jerusalem ) will still be an earthly existence for those who survive the Tribulation and Satan will be loosed upon it after a 1000 years . These humans will reproduce and again many of them will rebel ( reject Jesus ) against God . There will also be glorified humans present and they will not reproduce .
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Mar 28 2016 07:40pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 29 Mar 2016 03:34)
...the Millennial Kingdom ( New Jerusalem ) will still be an earthly existence for those who survive the Tribulation and Satan will be loosed upon it after a 1000 years . These humans will reproduce and again many of them will rebel ( reject Jesus ) against God . There will also be glorified humans present and they will not reproduce .


So evil will not exist in New Jerusalem for a 1000 years?
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Mar 28 2016 07:44pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Mar 28 2016 09:40pm)
So evil will not exist in New Jerusalem for a 1000 years?


...evil still exists , it has not been defeated yet , just restrained ...we know this because Jesus told the 12 Apostles that they will stand in judgement over the 12 tribes of Israel in the New Jerusalem .
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Mar 28 2016 08:21pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 29 Mar 2016 03:44)
...evil still exists , it has not been defeated yet , just restrained ...we know this because Jesus told the 12 Apostles that they will stand in judgement over the 12 tribes of Israel in the New Jerusalem .


But can evil manifest in New Jerusalem in the 1000 years Satan is kept out?
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But can evil manifest in New Jerusalem in the 1000 years Satan is kept out?


...yes . If evil was not being practiced the Apostles would have nothing to judge ; mankind is still corrupt even with Satan restrained .
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Mar 28 2016 09:38pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 29 Mar 2016 04:34)
...yes . If evil was not being practiced the Apostles would have nothing to judge ; mankind is still corrupt even with Satan restrained .


But isn't Satan the source of evil?

If evil can manifest, doesn't that mean that Satan is not restrained?
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