Lybia: Would you say that people of Lybia are better off with open air slave markets, warlords running rampant and economy ruined than they were under comically tyrannical Gadaffi rule? Sacha Baron Cohen literally made a movie about him mocking Gadaffi’s excesses.

Yugoslavia: can you explain why supporting separatist Muslim enclaves in their fight against a genocide by the Serbians is considered a fight for justice, while we now view Crimea and Donbass secessions as illegal separatist puppet states? Kosovo literally only exists because NATO recognized it in 2008 while majority of the world explicitly did not recognize this secession.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Kosovo

I realize this does work against Russian foreign policy stance by the way as they do not recognize Kosovo, but recognize Crimea/Donbass). I just want to hear an opinion different from mine as I struggle to appreciate the nuances.

This post was edited by Malopox on Aug 15 2023 01:58am

Yah I know you were talking to the Scottish Karen

As for close quarter caves , there is also FOH .

But what the US is facing now, there are a lot more Blizz Sorcs , Bone Necros and PSN Necros flying around . So not so easy anymore .

I dont agree with this statement, and neither does Russia to my mind. I previously outlined that I envisaged Russia upgrading its military, both conventional and non conventional. however, this is merely a difference of opinions, of which there are many in this thread I would say that Russia has gained combat experience, far more then it had in recent years but the US is far more experienced, after all it is at war, or waging warfare somewhere, at all times. I tend to agree with hamster here, both in his original post and the reference to blizz sorcs.

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 15 2023 01:54am

Wasn't Libya one of the more advanced and wealthier nations when Gaddafi was around ? Pretty good social services, prevented all these doctors and engineers from going to EU.
And most of all the quality of Sarir is pretty damn excellent with Sulfur Content <0.25%

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 15 2023 01:57am

The big thing the US has to deal with is the complete and total destruction of the internet and all satellites should war break out with a real power. American tech won't work quite so well when blinded. Yes everyone will have to deal with it, but the American's and those privvy to their briefs will be most affected as they have indisputably the best satellite coverage and they depend upon it constantly. The Russians at least are used to sub optimal conditions. I'm not so sure about China they haven't been tested at all since WW2 everything is an unknown there. But China's a defender in any scenario so they have massive advantages.

America has experience with people who can't fight back, that isn't experience.

Agree with the Bold. But it ain't going to be easy. I think US have around 5k plus satellites and the Chinese have around 600 ? Not sure about Russians.

In regards to China.....to be honest...they Just want to make money. The Chinese , although a communist party, was not part of the one that is being led by the Soviets ( They were never in good terms ).
Which is why the PERFECT Strategy which was crafted by Kissinger during Nixon's presidency, pulled the Chinese over to the American side. ( In a way)

Mao view of the 3 world principle is as such

First World : US Led West
Second Word : Soviet Bloc
Third World ( Non Aligned Countries ) : China , India, South East Asia, Africa , South America etc etc.

There were a few times that the Chinese were tested, Korean War and the Vietnam Border conflict.

Experience in beating up weak little kids I supposed.
I mean a buffed up American Football Chad is definitely going to win an ( For Example ) Asian boy who wear glasses and play the Violin.
Well this was in the past.

Heheh.

That one little conflict that Chinese propaganda conveniently shuffles under the rugs every time they blame the Americans for all their expansionary wars.

Chinese tried to invade Vietnam straight after US fled with their tails under their legs. Vietnamese meddled with Chinese puppet state of Cambodia which China didn’t like. China got upset but got their shit handed to them by battle hardened vietkong forces pretty bad. Do I get that right or did I skip some important details.

This post was edited by Malopox on Aug 15 2023 02:28am

It will be too easy we're near the edge of total satellite failure even without blowing up thousands of satellites. All we need do is continue as we are and space will be unnavigable in a single generation. The ISS has had to dodge debris 32 times and even with Russia America and most of the rest of the developed world watching it's still been hit at least twice. Noone has a solution to this problem even without war concerns to add on.

I agree China has no interest in war they are a nation of investment bankers at this time. Cruel manipulative and greedy, and 0 interest pissing profits away on war. But they have vested interest in territory the US constantly invades and the US is using multiple strategies against them, so I've no doubt China has prepared well for any American aggression in the region. If America attacked China, America would lose everything they attacked with. China would face the same in reverse, but it's clear China is never going to attempt it. The US might.

The North American definition of 3rd world has shifted significantly with the Soviet collapse. Colloquially, 3rd world is a country that is technologically, militarily, and economically dependent on a first world country (or isn't supported by a first world country and is a shit hole), and Russia is considered a first world country. There are no 2nd world countries in typical usage.
The old definitions stopped being applicable so the people changed the meaning. I apologize for any confusion this has caused. I usually converse with other North Americans and forgot the language wouldn't necessarily translate properly.

I'd normally bet on the American in that situation but there isn't 1 guy with a violin there's more like 600 million guys with violins. 600 million guys with home field advantage no less. Also, sometimes the little guy wins. The Taliban is a flea to America, yet they won.