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Aug 12 2023 07:15pm
Quote (RussianPlebsAreFunneh @ Aug 12 2023 08:48pm)
Nobody is winning, its a bullshit conflict, started by a Pedophile Czar with no logical reason whatsoever, which is why 2 years in, the objectives of this war are still not stated and are constantly changing. At the very least, Ukraine has a reason to defend itself.

Sorry to shit on the parade in this thread, West is not collapsing due to war in Ukraine. Russia cannibalized its economy and long term prospects for this war, overextended its presumed capability and shown the world its a joke criminal dictatorship.


Yes, the people who say "Russia is winning" are ignoring the colossal cost incurred on the Russian economy. But the opposite is certainly true, this conflict has placed enormous stress on Ukraine, such that they certainly cannot win and are going to need to negotiate a peaceful end to this conflict.
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Yes, the people who say "Russia is winning" are ignoring the colossal cost incurred on the Russian economy. But the opposite is certainly true, this conflict has placed enormous stress on Ukraine, such that they certainly cannot win and are going to need to negotiate a peaceful end to this conflict.


Russia is shooting itself in the foot, no matter the angle. The costs that arise from having a tarnished by war neighbor next to you are/will be incurred mostly by Russia due to conflict taking place on its doorstep. Much less so by Poland and EU countries.
They are selling their oil (which is their main commodity) for $65 now compared to $88 before the war. The market they are selling to is just a fraction of what EU market was, "energy drink effect" to due short-term spike last year, will wear off and once it does crash is inevitable. And for what? To capture some ruins that they will have to spend hundreds of billions to rebuild and maintain? While 70% of Russian plebs live in third world conditions already?

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Aug 12 2023 08:24pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 12 2023 09:15pm)
Yes, the people who say "Russia is winning" are ignoring the colossal cost incurred on the Russian economy. But the opposite is certainly true, this conflict has placed enormous stress on Ukraine, such that they certainly cannot win and are going to need to negotiate a peaceful end to this conflict.


We've spent ~10 trillion dollars between Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq and what exactly do we have to show for it?

Hard to say the aggregate impact on Russia's economy but it's somewhere in the hundreds of billions most likely, maybe with time it will reach the trillion mark, maybe more, we'll never know the true number but If they come away with 15-20% of Ukraine's most resource rich land (which the Donbass is) something the size of England, was one trillion or 2 worth it? Idk, but it's sure a better investment than our conquests.
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We've spent ~10 trillion dollars between Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq and what exactly do we have to show for it?

Hard to say the aggregate impact on Russia's economy but it's somewhere in the hundreds of billions most likely, maybe with time it will reach the trillion mark, maybe more, we'll never know the true number but If they come away with 15-20% of Ukraine's most resource rich land (which the Donbass is) something the size of England, was one trillion or 2 worth it? Idk, but it's sure a better investment than our conquests.


Who is "we" though, Borat?
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Aug 12 2023 08:34pm
Quote (RussianPlebsAreFunneh @ Aug 12 2023 10:28pm)
Who is "we" though, Borat?


We, the US. I get that it bothers you that foreign born Americans like me are lapping you, even though you were born into a very privileged country but just accept it. Seething and being bothered that Indians, Chinese and other foreign born professionals are doing better than you is pathetic tbh.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 12 2023 04:34pm)
We, the US. I get that it bothers you that foreign born Americans like me are lapping you, even though you were born into a very privileged country but just accept it. Seething and being bothered that Indians, Chinese and other foreign born professionals are doing better than you is pathetic tbh.


Not at all, I just find it hilarious that people who lived vast majority of their life in some other country, come to my country - regard themselves as "we" in regards to actions carried out by US back in 1940s (when they/their ancestors worked for communist ideals and most likely had portraits of communist leaders who hated US in their house). Really pathetic double standards there buddy, especially given how you much you hate USA. Wouldn't call working in Walmart "lapping" though, but to each their own ;) . Guess thats better than whatever you could of achieved back in your country you don't criticize (lol)
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Quote (RussianPlebsAreFunneh @ Aug 12 2023 10:42pm)
Not at all, I just find it hilarious that people who lived vast majority of their life in some other country, come to my country - regard themselves as "we" in regards to actions carried out by US back in 1940s (when they/their ancestors worked for communist ideals and most likely had portraits of communist leaders who hated US in their house). Really pathetic double standards there buddy, especially given how you much you hate USA. Wouldn't call working in Walmart "lapping" though, but to each their own ;) . Guess thats better than whatever you could of achieved back in your country you don't criticize (lol)


Have an MBA and 6 figure job and lived the vast majority of my life in the US. But keep reaching little buddy, love the attention obviously I struck a nerve ;)
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 12 2023 04:47pm)
Have an MBA and 6 figure job and lived the vast majority of my life in the US. But keep reaching little buddy, love the attention obviously I struck a nerve ;)


Only 6? Majority of degens on this forum claim to 7-8. Beauty of the internet that some drunkard can lay claim to imaginary billions. Just as the beauty of US is that its a melting pot, we shall wash out your Soviet/commie ideals out of your descendants DNA eventually. Must be hard to live with such a backwards mentality. To work, pay taxes and live in a country, ideals of which you so explicitly hate and despise, rambling non-stop and cheering for pedophile Czar 5,000 miles away from here, who attacks the very core values that our country was built/formed on, providing you and your family opportunity to not live in a shit hole like this:


Never understood that about sizeable chunk of Eastern Europeans here, why do they feel the need to bring their commie baggage with them?
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Aug 12 2023 09:11pm
Quote (RussianPlebsAreFunneh @ Aug 12 2023 11:02pm)
Just as the beauty of US is that its a melting pot,


This is why we are the great Satan and eastern Europe is the last bastion of western morals. America exports its degeneracy to the rest of the world, its nothing to be proud of
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Quote (RussianPlebsAreFunneh @ Aug 12 2023 11:02pm)
Only 6? Majority of degens on this forum claim to 7-8. Beauty of the internet that some drunkard can lay claim to imaginary billions. Just as the beauty of US is that its a melting pot, we shall wash out your Soviet/commie ideals out of your descendants DNA eventually. Must be hard to live with such a backwards mentality. To work, pay taxes and live in a country, ideals of which you so explicitly hate and despise, rambling non-stop and cheering for pedophile Czar 5,000 miles away from here, who attacks the very core values that our country was built/formed on, providing you and your family opportunity to not live in a shit hole like this:
https://www.shutterstock.com/shutterstock/photos/2138214919/display_1500/stock-photo-view-of-khrushchyovka-common-type-of-old-low-cost-apartment-building-in-russia-and-post-soviet-2138214919.jpg

Never understood that about sizeable chunk of Eastern Europeans here, why do they feel the need to bring their commie baggage with them?


Sophomoric comeback, as if I'm a commie or ever was. I've been posting here for years and enough of the forum knows my politics and by now it's blatantly obvious what my politics on economics are. But you keep reaching just posting random dumb shit, complete shots in the dark, trying to angle an ethnicity or background as negative. It's frankly pathetic, and reflective of your own deficiencies that the argument you cling to is attacking someones ethnic background? Lmao, do better little guy.
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