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Quote (El1te @ Aug 12 2023 10:25pm)
Comrade is a reference to the soviet union, and you in bad faith pretending otherwise means nothing other than exposing yourself as an imbecile


Ok comrade. Off to the gulag with me.
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Quote (El1te @ 12 Aug 2023 23:22)
I'm not denying he was corrupt or that he was not a puppet of Putin.
If Ukrainians really wanted to kick him out, then why didn't they do it through the democratic electoral process instead of a violent coup?
edit: the vote was as constitutional as Germany's vote on the Enabling Act


He got fired by his own party while being president ... That's fucking Epic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Disavowal_by_party

Disavowal by party:
Yanukovych was soon disowned by the Party of Regions. In a statement issued by Oleksandr Yefremov, parliamentary faction leader, the party and its members "strongly condemn[ed] the criminal orders that led to human victims, an empty state treasury, huge debts, shame before the eyes of the Ukrainian people and the entire world."

loool

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 12 2023 02:31pm)
He got fired by his own party while being president ... That's fucking Epic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Disavowal_by_party

Disavowal by party:
Yanukovych was soon disowned by the Party of Regions. In a statement issued by Oleksandr Yefremov, parliamentary faction leader, the party and its members "strongly condemn[ed] the criminal orders that led to human victims, an empty state treasury, huge debts, shame before the eyes of the Ukrainian people and the entire world."

loool


People turning to save their own skins after a violent coup is nothing new.

From the same article you linked:

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That day, the Ukrainian parliament (Verkhovna Rada) voted 386–0 to reinstate the 2004 Constitution of Ukraine.[202] During the afternoon, police abandoned central Kyiv, allowing protesters to take control. Yanukovych secretly fled the city that evening.


This is violence. If he did not flee, he would have been left to the mercy of the mob. He fled under the direct threat of violence, which is unconstitutional and barbaric and has no place in a civilized legitimate nation.

edit: the voters were OBVIOUSLY also under the DIRECT THREAT of violence by the mob. The vote was directly coerced by violent means.

And:

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The constitutionality of Yanukovych's removal from office has been questioned by constitutional experts.[210] Parliament did not vote to impeach the President, which would have involved formally charging Yanukovych with a crime, a review of the charge by the Constitutional Court of Ukraine, and a three-fourths majority vote in parliament—at least 338 votes in favor.[211][212] The Ukrainian Constitution at this time (like many other constitutions) did not provide any stipulation about how to remove a president who is neither dead nor incapacitated, but is nonetheless absent or not fulfilling his duties. The lack of such provisions was a loophole. Viktor Yanukovych fled from Ukraine to Russia.


It quite literally was not constitutional.

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Is guy actually shilling for Yanukovych right now? :rofl:
Hang on. Is Ukraine supposed to be held to a higher democratic standard than Russia? *grabs popcorn*


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Quote (El1te @ 12 Aug 2023 23:36)
People turning to save their own skins after a violent coup is nothing new.
From the same article you linked:
This is violence. If he did not flee, he would have been left to the mercy of the mob. He fled under the direct threat of violence, which is unconstitutional and barbaric and has no place in a civilized legitimate nation.
edit: the voters were OBVIOUSLY also under the DIRECT THREAT of violence by the mob. The vote was directly coerced by violent means.
It quite literally was not constitutional.


The Verkhovna Rada voted on February 22, 2014 to "remove Viktor Yanukovych from the post of president of Ukraine" on the grounds that he had withdrawn from fulfilling his constitutional duties
The guy flee in Russia !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_Ukraine

The vote came an hour after Yanukovych said in a televised address that he would not resign.
He subsequently declared himself to still be "the legitimate head of the Ukrainian state elected in a free vote by Ukrainian citizens". However, no country recognized this claim except Russia :lol:
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Aug 12 2023 11:40am)
Is guy actually shilling for Yanukovych right now? :rofl:
Hang on. Is Ukraine supposed to be held to a higher democratic standard than Russia? *grabs popcorn*




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The Verkhovna Rada voted on February 22, 2014 to "remove Viktor Yanukovych from the post of president of Ukraine" on the grounds that he had withdrawn from fulfilling his constitutional duties
The guy flee in Russia !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_Ukraine

The vote came an hour after Yanukovych said in a televised address that he would not resign.
He subsequently declared himself to still be "the legitimate head of the Ukrainian state elected in a free vote by Ukrainian citizens". However, no country recognized this claim except Russia :lol:


He fled to Russia under the direct threat of violence. Read again:

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The Ukrainian Constitution at this time (like many other constitutions) did not provide any stipulation about how to remove a president who is neither dead nor incapacitated, but is nonetheless absent or not fulfilling his duties. The lack of such provisions was a loophole. Viktor Yanukovych fled from Ukraine to Russia.
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He fled to Russia under the direct threat of violence. Read again:


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Dude, please. Russia is winning the war... I mean, special military operation.
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Dude, please. Russia is winning the war... I mean, special military operation.


They are has activate special secret weapon, Russian Pleb Mobiles


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