And to illustrate that a bit, Niger was a banana republic not a real democracy, that 'democratically elected minority president' won an 'election' where his main competitor was imprisoned and not allowed to run. Same with previous 'elections'. Ie in 2008 opposition leader Hama Amadou was arrested on charges of embezzlement (of less money than I have in my bank account, I mean, this is Niger). He called it completely made up, but the government stripped him of immunity, imprisoned him and forbade him from running in the 2009 elections while his supporters protested- at which point the government banned rallies by his supporters. In 2010 that government was ousted in a coup, and he returned and won a 103-1 vote for president of the assembly, opposed to the national president Issoufou, who then arrested him on charges of baby trafficking (!?), again stripping him of parliamentary immunity. He tried to run again in 2016, arrived in the capitol and was immediately arrested, the elections held with the majority party boycotting it while that minority 'won' with 92.5% of the vote.


The point being we're talking about subsaharan, sahel africa, the shithole of the world's shithole, where any pretense of democracy and social ideals are just a paper thin farce. Whether its a French colony or US puppet or client junta of Russia, its not like they ever had true self-determination. At least there's pretty good evidence the populist sentiment of the nigerien people is behind Russia instead of the west, but not even remotely in the sense of ethnic ruskies of east ukraine actually joining Russia as equals, we're talking trading one slavemaster for another.

No, IMHO your equivalence is -wrong- because on the Wagner side you have unlimited massacres services without journalists and/or NGO allowed to check and report regarding human rights.

Btw this is why militarized gangsters are prefering Wagner/Russia... Jumping back 50 years, at least.

Sounds like their political and justice system is pretty fucked. I guess welcoming Wagner in will help that situation? After all, the stooges of a former intelligence officer turned mafia boss posing as a president of the most corrupt country on the continent, couldn't possibly bring bad juju, right?

This has been widespread since the beginning of the war, surprised western MSM that have been running cover forever are actually being journalists all of the sudden. For those 112 opened cases, there are thousands (probably tens of thousands) that already got away with it. War is for the poor as they say. I generally share Andriy's sentiment. It won't actually change much, it's a façade to 'show' both western partners that something is done about the corruption as well as the angry relatives of those that died or are maimed while the rich pay to be safe.




https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/world/europe/ukraine-fires-recruitment-chiefs.html#:~:text=President%20Volodymyr%20Zelensky%20said%20he,Ukraine's%20Western%20backers%20at%20risk.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Aug 11 2023 08:18pm

Why do you keep referring yourself as "we" in regards to our country, you weren't born here. Identity crisis? If you don't like it, pack your bags and go back to 3rd world eastern European shit hole you originate from, Borat. Ex-commies who failed to build anything resembling a functional political system don't get a say on how to run this country or our foreign policy.

Whos "our"? Ironic post is ironic

Born and raised here, just like my parents. Not sure if you are aware what irony actually means.

This post was edited by RussianPlebsAreFunneh on Aug 11 2023 09:56pm

So second generation off the boat?

Aren't you a curious George? Lets steer the thread back on topic though


Pedophile rules Russia and Russian plebs support his acts of pedophilia.

Is this prox1m1ty lol