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Aug 10 2023 03:39pm
Quote (El1te @ Aug 10 2023 11:32pm)
^Hamsterbaby ^ferdia

On the issue of peace, I believe only the USA and Russia have the power to determine when peace happens.

The government of Ukraine is a puppet government of the USA (and all western European nations are vassal states of the USA). If the USA tells them no more war, they have no choice but to obey. If they do not, and USA cuts supports, Russia takes over and annexes the entire country.

At this point neither side wants to back down. The current regime in the USA says "as long as it takes" meaning forever until Russia backs down.

There's only two options: Regime change in the USA or Regime change in Russia

USA is on the brink of regime change. The current regime is a criminal and degenerate regime which is destroying the country every single day: every single day the border is flooded with migrants, cities continue to decay into anarchic hellholes, the buying power of the lower and middle classes continues to shrink, children continue to be demoralized, and chemically and physically castrated, anti-natalism and abortion is out of control, etc. Regime change is only a matter of time.

A new Trump regime in 2024 would end the war immediately, but a new regime in Russia may not - only if the new regime is against the war. However, even if regime change did happen in Russia, the new regime could be even worse.

People forget that Russia has the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world.

Trump is going to be worse than Biden. Don't you have anyone better in that 320 million country?

On a side note, I rewatched Starship Troopers. Every member of this thread should watch that one once. Lots of parallels in that parody.

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Aug 10 2023 02:34pm)
I am seriously hoping Trump can end it mate.... but the Foreign Establishment might be too powerful.

I had a conversation with ^Ferdia before and he said the Democrats are going to go all the way out to stop Trump. Maybe even assassination...
^ferdia please refresh me on that .


IMO it all depends on whether Trump is able to change the regime or not. Last time he was president, he maintained the regime status-quo.

For real regime change he largely needs the full support of the Republican party, I think we have a much better chance of this now considering the blatant criminality, persecutions, and censorship of the current regime.

If Trump is assassinated, I can see armed uprisings happening against the democrats. And Trump's supporters are armed to the teeth. I don't think they're dumb enough to kill him, or risk having their entire families flayed, burned alive, boiled alive, etc.
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Quote (ferdia @ Aug 10 2023 02:35pm)
it is my view that Donald Trump will be jailed or assassinated before he sits in the oval office. I have a side bet with hamsterbaby on this. I won 55,000 euro on multiple bets in my life time and i have read enough to know that Donald Trump will not be re-elected. Therefore no "regime change" in the US. sorry!

Happy to take more bets in this regard.

Finally there is zero evidence to support the notion that anyone that replaces Putin will be a pacifist. it is far more likely they will have a big grudge against the US and the West and Ukraine.


I don't believe they are dumb enough to kill or jail Trump - the blowback would be extreme.

These prosecutions are all shams that have the sole intention of harming his chances in the election - I don't actually think they will take it further than this, since plausible deniability would be gone

But we will have to see
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Aug 10 2023 03:47pm
German government considers delivery of Taurus cruise missiles.

German arms aid to Ukraine has so far followed a pattern: first doubts prevail in the German government, then it is examined and in the end it is delivered after all. That was the case with tanks - and it could now be the same with cruise missiles.
According to SPIEGEL, the German government is examining how Germany can supply Ukraine with Taurus cruise missiles from Bundeswehr stocks in the coming months. Discussions with the arms industry are currently underway and are being kept carefully secret.
The background to this is that Chancellor Olaf Scholz (SPD) wants to make technical modifications to the Taurus to ensure that Ukraine cannot use the long-range weapon system to carry out attacks on Russian territory. As before, the chancellor is concerned about an escalation of the war.
In recent weeks, the house of Defense Minister Boris Pistorius (SPD) has asked the Taurus manufacturer to include a corresponding limitation for target programming in the cruise missiles.
Industry circles said such a limitation of the system was entirely possible, but would take several weeks. According to SPIEGEL information, Chancellor Scholz will not approve the Taurus delivery until he is convinced of the technical modification. But he no longer has any fundamental doubts about the idea.

=> Guess what ? I would not be surprised if Ukraine ends up getting these missiles too.
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Aug 10 2023 03:51pm
Quote (babun1024 @ 11 Aug 2023 05:39)
Trump is going to be worse than Biden. Don't you have anyone better in that 320 million country?

On a side note, I rewatched Starship Troopers. Every member of this thread should watch that one once. Lots of parallels in that parody.


I watched Starship Troopers long time back. Whether Trump is worse than Biden , that is subjective to be honest. Given the fact that the support he is receiving now. I do not think any of the Republican candidates can go head to head with him at least for now.

Quote (El1te @ 11 Aug 2023 05:43)
IMO it all depends on whether Trump is able to change the regime or not. Last time he was president, he maintained the regime status-quo.

For real regime change he largely needs the full support of the Republican party, I think we have a much better chance of this now considering the blatant criminality, persecutions, and censorship of the current regime.

If Trump is assassinated, I can see armed uprisings happening against the democrats. And Trump's supporters are armed to the teeth. I don't think they're dumb enough to kill him, or risk having their entire families flayed, burned alive, boiled alive, etc.


People do dumb things mate.... I don't know. The addiction of power , legacy and the unwavering need to push far left liberal ideology is too entrenched into the ethos of some powerful Democrats.
They already have the support of the Media , Feds , CIA , Big Tech........I am not sure how this will end up really.

The America system of Democracy ( I am not sure if you can call it as such ) no longer have the ability to live and let live.

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Aug 10 2023 02:51pm)
I watched Starship Troopers long time back. Whether Trump is worse than Biden , that is subjective to be honest. Given the fact that the support he is receiving now. I do not think any of the Republican candidates can go head to head with him at least for now.



People do dumb things mate.... I don't know. The addiction of power , legacy and the unwavering need to push far left liberal ideology is too entrenched into the ethos of some powerful Democrats.
They already have the support of the Media , Feds , CIA , Big Tech........I am not sure how this will end up really.

The America system of Democracy ( I am not sure if you can call it as such ) no longer have the ability to live and let live.


It's difficult to predict what would happen, but my view is this:

While the Obama/DNC regime has the support of the political establishment, the media, secret police & enforcement apparati, and big tech, Trump & the RNC have the support of the police, military, and majority of the able-bodied and armed population.

If push comes to shove Trump & his supporters have the advantage. Assassination does not often work out the way the assassins want it to: e.g. in Rome after they assassinated Julius Caesar, Caesar's supporters won the following civil war quite quickly as they had they had the majority support of the people and the bulk of the military.

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Aug 10 2023 04:07pm
Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 10 2023 02:39pm)
Trump is going to be worse than Biden. Don't you have anyone better in that 320 million country?

On a side note, I rewatched Starship Troopers. Every member of this thread should watch that one once. Lots of parallels in that parody.


Can you elaborate how he would be worse than Biden? Especially with regards to the various aspects of societal degeneration?

There are plenty of better people but none with the necessary moxie unfortunately
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Aug 10 2023 04:08pm
Ukraine offensive? :lol:
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Aug 10 2023 04:08pm
Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 10 2023 10:39pm)
Trump is going to be worse than Biden. Don't you have anyone better in that 320 million country?

On a side note, I rewatched Starship Troopers. Every member of this thread should watch that one once. Lots of parallels in that parody.


"But Sir, I Dont Understand, Whats The Point In Learning How To Throw A Knife When All I Gotta Do Is Push That Button"
"Soldier, Put Your Hand Against That Wall"
Soldier puts hand against wall
Sergeant picks up knife, throws it and embeds the knife in the soldiers hand, stuck to the wall.

"When the hand is mobilized it cannot push that trigger".

...

...

...

"MEDIC!!"

lets see if i can find that video



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Quote (ownyaah @ 11 Aug 2023 06:08)
Ukraine offensive? :lol:


HEY YOU ARE BACK !!!!!!!!!!! Welcome back !!!!!!

Quote (El1te @ 11 Aug 2023 06:02)
It's difficult to predict what would happen, but my view is this:

While the Obama/DNC regime has the support of the political establishment, the media, secret police & enforcement apparati, and big tech, Trump & the RNC have the support of the police, military, and majority of the able-bodied and armed population.

If push comes to shove Trump & his supporters have the advantage. Assassination does not often work out the way the assassins want it to: e.g. in Rome after they assassinated Julius Caesar, Caesar's supporters won the following civil war quite quickly as they had they had the majority support of the people and the bulk of the military.


Maybe if this happens. The World might be slightly peaceful for a couple of years. But it will be difficult as well, because there will be opportunistic actors that will fill up the United States role. The key is will they allow it ? I think not. So it might still be a huge mess internally and externally.



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