i disagree with this, it just needs the united states, ukraine and russia. europe is irrelevant of course, and so is everyone else. As i stated on numerous occasions there can be no peace without the US brokering it, since they are the main uhhh, party. (replace party with whatever word you want, you get my drift).

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 10 2023 01:33pm

this was well said, better then how i said it.

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 10 2023 01:35pm

But the USA is not interested in brokering it at the moment.........Maybe if Trump wins ? It is going to be difficult no matter what happens. Let me think a little.

Just to add. The Russians will not negotiate with Democrats and Ukraine at the moment.


This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 10 2023 01:39pm

NATO never invaded Iraq btw.

Entities which killed an hundred millions are still here today (Ruling Russian elite/network & CCP) and not a single word about this fact... US are evil ...




This post was edited by Meanwhile on Aug 10 2023 01:50pm

pretty reasonable take on the ukrainian counter-offensive and likely scenarios moving forward:

they already have lost plenty, which they are not going to get back as we clearly see now

the nazis have already blown up a dam and got the "russia will destroy a nuclear power plant" propaganda and lies going, there is a decent risk they will do shit regardless

right now they are killing off what youth they still have left to get a few villages and some dirt back

that was a good video.

I gave it some thoughts.

If that is the case that will be no peace or ceasefire. The Foreign Policy Establishment which Biden is part of, especially during the 90s is hell bent on wiping out the Russians influence once and for all especially militarily.
The script was already discussed , written and prepared since the fall of the Soviet Union.

This is a coherent and reasonable strategy at that point at least for some in the FPE. It is a way for the US / West to finally push a liberal style system to that part of the world.

Insights from Francis Fukuyama for my above statement, The End of History and the Last Man Published in 1992.

A short summary and counter arguments can be seen here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_History_and_the_Last_Man

Now this is my opinion, all the proxy wars, wars ( There are definitely Humanitarian intervention in a number of them no doubt out of compassion or justice however one wants to frame it. ) etc etc that happened after the the fall of the Soviets seems to be a litmus test to see how influential and robust the Russians are, culminating up to the current Ukraine drama.

And this particular Foreign Policy Script is Bi-Partisan. I don't see how United States is the only party that is needed to broker the peace. Pressure from other players needed to be involved to broker the peace no matter how big or small.
But that is just how I look at it.

Will appreciate and value your input.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 10 2023 02:19pm

Posts are so incredibly dumb. So current Russians/Chinese in charge today are responsible for millions of historical deaths under communism but Germans are not for crimes of nazis?

Hitler/Stalin lived during the same era, what’s the logical leap to hold current populations accountable over other ones?

Unfortunately i can't past the Michel Goya analysis here (military expertt) but I would like to say that SHELLS (like it is shortly pointed out in this video it seems) are a very important factor for Ukraine's "victory".

We should keep an eye on Western production and its evolution in the next months. I guess that like usual, there will be alot of these, a bit late tho.