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Aug 9 2023 03:58pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 10 Aug 2023 05:53)
there is a reason for the german military being trash

they accept anything with two legs and two arms, thats the standard


I wouldn't go as far to say they are trash.
But thats my personal opinion. They are still decent.
But in 25 years time, the United States military would have been Germany for almost a century.

Doesn't help at all. You will lack traits like the sense of urgency for example.
Because at the back of your mind you will be brought up to think there is always and surely going to be help.
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Aug 9 2023 03:59pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 9 2023 02:00pm)
OK, so in case you didn't get it:
This is normal, they were just following orders and war is bad so hu ho let's normalize it:

- Randomly execute civilians
- Rape
- Loot
- Torture

Once again: Man you dont know how it works ! It was just orders.

The best level of deceit.


Ukrainian soldiers are also guilty of all of these crimes.

It is a complete myth that in war one side is honourable while the other side isn't. War is hell
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Aug 9 2023 04:05pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Aug 9 2023 11:58pm)
I wouldn't go as far to say they are trash.
But thats my personal opinion. They are still decent.
But in 25 years time, the United States military would have been Germany for almost a century.

Doesn't help at all. You will lack traits like the sense of urgency for example.
Because at the back of your mind you will be brought up to think there is always and surely going to be help.


i dont mean to shit on the good men, who put in their best effort on the sinking ship

however they just barely have enough functioning gear to raid the next pantry and thats only if its unguarded

the level of recruiting is absurd and ukraine has now more functional german gear than the place itself

This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Aug 9 2023 04:05pm
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Quote (El1te @ Aug 9 2023 04:59pm)
Ukrainian soldiers are also guilty of all of these crimes.

It is a complete myth that in war one side is honourable while the other side isn't. War is hell


Eastern European wars are hell*
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Aug 9 2023 05:09pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 9 Aug 2023 23:35)
A Clerk also serve in the military your point ?
You are still dodging Karen.

There is a reason why someone mention you as one of the Holy Trinity Karen of Pard.

https://i.imgur.com/HMlDpEEl.jpg


the point (really sad that you always need the crayon version to understand really simple things) is that "i had orders" is a terrible "excuse" for murdering, raping, and torturing.

regarding the "orc" (boohoo, bad word, but "karen" is obviously ok, hypocrite) thing: in which post did they use the term "orc" to insult all russians? show me the post, and i will happily agree with you that it's wrong.

try to keep up, it's really tedious that i always have to explain things twice to you...

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Quote (El1te @ 9 Aug 2023 23:59)
Ukrainian soldiers are also guilty of all of these crimes.

It is a complete myth that in war one side is honourable while the other side isn't. War is hell


the point is not that ukrainian soldiers are saints, the point is that they wouldn't even be in a position to retaliate if russia hadn't started this war, if russian soldiers had not started murdering, raping, torturing their neighbours in the first place.

if you shoot someone who attacks you and your family, it's not a simplistic "both sides are bad". such narratives only serve the aggressor - which obviously is your intention here...
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Quote (fender @ Aug 9 2023 07:19pm)
the point is not that ukrainian soldiers are saints, the point is that they wouldn't even be in a position to retaliate if russia hadn't started this war, if russian soldiers had not started murdering, raping, torturing their neighbours in the first place.

if you shoot someone who attacks you and your family, it's not a simplistic "both sides are bad". such narratives only serve the aggressor - which obviously is your intention here...


Jesus Christ- get out of your self righteous box of always telling everyone how everything is….it’s hilarious how the thing you claim to stand for is the thing you are always shutting out in other people.

Share an opinion, even it being yours, without telling others how you’re better than them…

“Oh Ukrainians wouldn’t be in this positions if Russians didn’t attack…” yea well if my grandmother had a dick she’d be my grandfather…only if.

It takes 2 to tango pal- doesn’t matter who is right or wrong. In all that you write I can’t even read what values you might align with because you’re too busy calling everyone else a shithead

But other than that,

How’s everyone else doing? How about them Russians huh?
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Aug 9 2023 06:40pm
Quote (fender @ 10 Aug 2023 07:09)
the point (really sad that you always need the crayon version to understand really simple things) is that "i had orders" is a terrible "excuse" for murdering, raping, and torturing.

regarding the "orc" (boohoo, bad word, but "karen" is obviously ok, hypocrite) thing: in which post did they use the term "orc" to insult all russians? show me the post, and i will happily agree with you that it's wrong.

try to keep up, it's really tedious that i always have to explain things twice to you...


You self owned yourself, with your own comments after being pointed out. 3000 pages of you calling Russians Orcs and dehumanizing them and cry foul when others are discussing what led up to these events.
3000 pages of other said individuals dehumanizing them and they proved it right after before you posted.

You literally have no idea how the military works in a war or how media works during war time or when a government perceived they are under existential threat be it " Russians, USA, China, Japan " in general.

Your spin on what you wrote and your mental gymnastic after being pointed out parallels those that are shown by media outlets " MSNBC " , I can even put you on the panel replacing Rachel Maddow with absolutely no problem.
You view the current war as they invaded first they are orcs and anyone who doesn't support the narratives are pootin lickers, with absolutely no idea or perhaps you even know it but have problems swallowing the truth that led up to this incident.

You probably don't even know how and why Hitler got into power in the first place which cause a catastrophic WW2.

The world is not as simple as I can use a Full Tals Blizz Sorc and Solo hell.

Your simplistic world views or lack thereof and the denial of historical context, background, great power politics , the lack of understanding how great power works , the lack of understanding how the US Foreign Policy establishment works makes your commentary banal.

Perhaps something simple like having a discourse on the controversy of Gender Dysphoria might bring the best out of you. It is pretty straight forward.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 9 2023 06:41pm
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Aug 9 2023 06:40pm)
You self owned yourself, with your own comments after being pointed out. 3000 pages of you calling Russians Orcs and dehumanizing them and cry foul when others are discussing what led up to these events.
3000 pages of other said individuals dehumanizing them and they proved it right after before you posted.

You literally have no idea how the military works in a war or how media works during war time or when a government perceived they are under existential threat be it " Russians, USA, China, Japan " in general.

Your spin on what you wrote and your mental gymnastic after being pointed out parallels those that are shown by media outlets " MSNBC " , I can even put you on the panel replacing Rachel Maddow with absolutely no problem.
You view the current war as they invaded first they are orcs and anyone who doesn't support the narratives are pootin lickers, with absolutely no idea or perhaps you even know it but have problems swallowing the truth that led up to this incident.

You probably don't even know how and why Hitler got into power in the first place which cause a catastrophic WW2.

The world is not as simple as I can use a Full Tals Blizz Sorc and Solo hell.

Your simplistic world views or lack thereof and the denial of historical context, background, great power politics , the lack of understanding how great power works , the lack of understanding how the US Foreign Policy establishment works makes your commentary banal.

Perhaps something simple like having a discourse on the controversy of Gender Dysphoria might bring the best out of you. It is pretty straight forward.


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Quote (colorful @ 10 Aug 2023 08:32)
Jesus Christ- get out of your self righteous box of always telling everyone how everything is….it’s hilarious how the thing you claim to stand for is the thing you are always shutting out in other people.

Share an opinion, even it being yours, without telling others how you’re better than them…

“Oh Ukrainians wouldn’t be in this positions if Russians didn’t attack…” yea well if my grandmother had a dick she’d be my grandfather…only if.

It takes 2 to tango pal- doesn’t matter who is right or wrong. In all that you write I can’t even read what values you might align with because you’re too busy calling everyone else a shithead

But other than that,

How’s everyone else doing? How about them Russians huh?


They got baited into the war and now they are facing the consequence of their actions and have no choice but to join up with the CCP.
We are already in the Pseudo Cold War 2.0 with a twist.

Bad for business and bad for the world at large, food security etc etc etc
It is what it is, the Russians are not dead yet and the Ukrainians lost a number of their territories.
The US is making a lot of money from EU via energy sales and the Russians open up central Asia for CCP's belt and road program and allowed China to use their military base in Vladivostok.

Short summary.

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