Its a cultural thing. I think everyone knows I avoid fender, but I believe he is german ? in europe that R word does not have the same impact as it clearly does over in the US. The road I take is if I am around people offended by certain words, I dont use them. Its a case of treat others the way you would wish to be treated.

Exactly. This is a point that Flys by some peoples head

Also: I've seen an absolute shiton of torture vids from this war cause I happen to work with two ex military guys that had to evac here with their families. They still got friends/family in the army and lemme tell you the ukkies are just as good and capable at torturing their victims as the ruskkies are. War is hell and the moment you fixate and one side being the bad guy you lose sight of the bigger picture.

its not US vs EU tbh. most people have no issues using it in the US, but my wife's a special education teacher and i do some work in her classroom, so i feel differently.

I did not say its a vs thing, I said its a cultural thing. It is used in every day language in some communities, and not in others. this is a side topic. ultimately this is taking me away from generating my chatgpt story so i am going away now!

I served two and a half years in the military and was posted during the East Timor Crisis. An Order is an Order you follow the orders that are given by your superiors.

Ya especially in the Russian army I'd imagine they'd either kill you or your family if you disobeyed direct orders. So ya they may end up acting like total savages (orcs) but that's what war demands and good luck trying to say no

OK, so in case you didn't get it:
This is normal, they were just following orders and war is bad so hu ho let's normalize it:

- Randomly execute civilians
- Rape
- Loot
- Torture

Once again: Man you dont know how it works ! It was just orders.

The best level of deceit.

to be fair, that's the main reason i generally don't use it - not because i think it's inappropriate for those who invade, torture, murder, and rape in ukraine, but because i see the danger of it becoming a slur against ALL russians, which i agree would be wrong.

at the same, time i think the pearl clutching by those who simply deny the fact that russia started this war, who downplay russian warcrimes, while constantly demonising "the west", is highly hypocritical. imagine getting all hot and bothered by the term "orcs" but not by the suffering pootin is inflicting on ukraine. it's so disingenuous and pathetic...



you're such a liar, lol. here's a challenge: find just THREE POSTS in which i use the term "orcs" for russians, and i will forever leave this forum. to clarify: not posts of me discussing this term with pootin apologists, or paraphrasing / quoting someone, but actually using it to describe russian invaders.

if you can't find THREE posts, you leave the forum forever.

do we have a deal, or will you dodge and admit that you're a liar? what will it be?

i already know: you will pretend that you simply cba to look through my post history, and still insist that you're right - and your fellow pootin apologists will go along with it as if it was true, even though it's a brazen lie.



what a simplistic NPC take. unlike most people here, i actually DID serve in the military, and as such i know that at least in the civilised world, there is a DUTY to disobey orders that constitute a crime according to the penal code, or a grave violation of international law - and a strong incentive to disobey orders violating human dignity. ( https://www.buzer.de/gesetz/2381/index.htm )

of course those things are more difficult in times of war, especially when you're part of a dictator's army, but it's not like there weren't plenty of russian soldiers who rejected pootin's orders and rather surrendered than murder their neighbours.

A Clerk also serve in the military your point ?
You are still dodging Karen.

There is a reason why someone mention you as one of the Holy Trinity Karen of Pard.

there is a reason for the german military being trash

they accept anything with two legs and two arms, thats the standard