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Aug 8 2023 04:32pm
Who let fender out of his cage wtf
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Aug 8 2023 04:48pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 9 Aug 2023 06:32)
Who let fender out of his cage wtf


you lack Proximity now.
They form the Holy Trinity.
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Aug 8 2023 04:50pm
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it's so dumb too. there is plenty of legitimate criticism to be had regarding the reporting of this war. there's some good reporting of course, but many outlets really do a shoddy job at times.

that's not enough for our kremlin bots though. for them it always has to be a grand conspiracy, lol. so they simplistically claim "tHe mEdiA iS nO lOnGeR rEpOrTiNg tHe nEwS - iT's aLL jUsT aGeNdA dRiVeN fAkE nEwS" - while ironically relying on actual propaganda by the state owned media of a warmongering dictator for "their" version.


all news is propaganda no matter where it's from.

Unbiased news is a myth. News is always skewed towards promoting a certain perspective.

Russian news, American news, European news, whatever it is, is always agenda driven. This is plainly obvious in the United States where you have MSNBC/CNN who plainly have a pro-DNC agenda while Fox News plainly has a pro-RNC agenda.
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Aug 8 2023 05:00pm
Quote (El1te @ 9 Aug 2023 06:50)
all news is propaganda no matter where it's from.

Unbiased news is a myth. News is always skewed towards promoting a certain perspective.

Russian news, American news, European news, whatever it is, is always agenda driven. This is plainly obvious in the United States where you have MSNBC/CNN who plainly have a pro-DNC agenda while Fox News plainly has a pro-RNC agenda.


Completely Agree. The Fourth Establishment is always an extension of the government. And it will play it's role even more vigorously when i.e a nation considers another nation or a particular group of people or race an existential threat like the Jewish community during WW2.
Whether is the threat warranted or deem true, is completely another issue altogether. Someone has to take the blame and the blame cannot be put onto the voters that put you into power and office. Just have to be someone else.
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Aug 8 2023 05:06pm
There is simply no rationale for all media outlets, when attending a press conference, held by Russia, about NS2, that they do not ask a single question, about NS2.
There is simply no rationale as to why in western society, no one is allowed to mention peace.

That is not journalism, its something else. If privately the journalists know the truth, then it should be their job to report the truth, instead of fabricating a lie.

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Aug 8 2023 05:08pm
Quote (El1te @ 9 Aug 2023 00:50)
all news is propaganda no matter where it's from.

Unbiased news is a myth. News is always skewed towards promoting a certain perspective.

Russian news, American news, European news, whatever it is, is always agenda driven. This is plainly obvious in the United States where you have MSNBC/CNN who plainly have a pro-DNC agenda while Fox News plainly has a pro-RNC agenda.


outlets like reuters and AP do a pretty good job of simply reporting the news.

it's obvious that your simlistic and cynical take is designed to create a false equivalence between outright war propaganda of the invading country on one side, and the general bias of the free world's media against such aggressors. that's absurd. the levels of factual accuracy and deliberate misinformation couldn't be further apart.

just because different things are not perfect does not mean they are equally bad. why do kremlin bots always resort to that moronic fallacy?
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Aug 8 2023 05:13pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Aug 9 2023 12:32am)
Who let fender out of his cage wtf


let the spam begin

Quote (El1te @ Aug 9 2023 12:50am)
all news is propaganda no matter where it's from.

Unbiased news is a myth. News is always skewed towards promoting a certain perspective.

Russian news, American news, European news, whatever it is, is always agenda driven. This is plainly obvious in the United States where you have MSNBC/CNN who plainly have a pro-DNC agenda while Fox News plainly has a pro-RNC agenda.


i am sure the same western media that lied about borderline everything in the past, including multiple wars, is totally going to give us the truth this time :rofl:
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Aug 8 2023 05:13pm
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There is simply no rationale for all media outlets, when attending a press conference, held by Russia, about NS2, that they do not ask a single question, about NS2.
There is simply no rationale as to why in western society, no one is allowed to mention peace.

That is not journalism, its something else. If privately the journalists know the truth, then it should be their job to report the truth, instead of fabricating a lie.


They can't, their job and livelihood is on the line. But they will once the war is over and everything goes back to reasonable peace.
When that happens, damage is already being done. Everyone will be advised to move on and try not to make similar mistakes that have gotten the world into such a ruinous state.
And everyone will try their best to make amends and peace for an "x" amount of time until the next drama happens. Once the next drama happens, they will forget all about the past and the cycle starts again.

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Aug 8 2023 05:27pm
Quote (ferdia @ 9 Aug 2023 01:06)
There is simply no rationale for all media outlets, when attending a press conference, held by Russia, about NS2, that they do not ask a single question, about NS2.
There is simply no rationale as to why in western society, no one is allowed to mention peace.

That is not journalism, its something else. If privately the journalists know the truth, then it should be their job to report the truth, instead of fabricating a lie.


"nO oNe iS aLLoWeD tO mEnTiOn pEaCe!!1!" - another one of those baseless propaganda talking points. a shameful and transparent lie. meanwhile in reality, literally every western leader has been urging russia to end this war for over a year now. the collective west (except some war profiteers) wants nothing more than peace. if pootin ordered his men back from ukrainian territory and offered peace, this whole war could end tomorrow.

what YOU probably mean, but have to misrepresent in order to support your previous lie, is that "advocating for a peace on russia's terms will earn you some backlash" - which is an entirely different thing of course.

understandably, there is not a great desire (not in the west, and also not in ukraine - who, let's remember, could just say "fuck it, we're tired of fighting, let's just give the russians what they want" - and there is nothing "the west" could do to force them to continue to fight for their freedom) for the kind of temporary "peace" that pootin desires. basically a ceasefire which allows him to consolidate and regroup, to reward his military aggression with the regions he desired, only to come back for more a few years down the road, after having murdering tens- if not hundreds of thousands of innocent people. not a single person who knows about russia's recent history would be fooled by that. but of course our resident kremlin bots have to pretend like it doesn't exist, lol... what a shocker that supporting such an approach will net you some criticism... and i guess that means you're simply "nOt aLLoWeD tO mEnTiOn pEaCe!!1!" - at least in the mind of a kremlin shill...

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Quote (fender @ Aug 8 2023 07:27pm)
the collective west (except some war profiteers) wants nothing more than peace.

there is nothing "the west" could do to force them to continue to fight for their freedom)


The ((war profiteers)) want nothing more than more brother wars and they own the states so what they say goes.

Lol'd at there's nothing the "west" could do.
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