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Quote (Goomshill @ 8 Aug 2023 22:29)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66383377

BBC reports are increasingly cold water


I think once the Main Stream Media and more often than not in the West , starts to make lukewarm reports on Ukraine , we can conclude that the war might be coming to a standstill sooner than later.
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Quote (Goomshill @ 8 Aug 2023 16:29)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66383377
BBC reports are increasingly cold water


War of attrition is the only way to diminish russian defenses. At some point they will no longer be able to denfend the whole frontline. On the top of that the suppression of supplying ways & bridges is definitely at Ukraine advantage. Whole Crimea & south are concerned.

Abrams, F-16, and tons of shit are en route already. Good Job. Taurus & Nasams are about to end -up bein delivered too, finally.

btw

The first Leopard 1 tanks from Belgium have been shipped to #Ukraine. They were purchased and repaired by an "unnamed country".

https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/8/7167212/

"Unnamed Country Buys 50 Leopard 1 Tanks from Belgium for Ukraine"


WTF ?? :o

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I think once the Main Stream Media and more often than not in the West , starts to make lukewarm reports on Ukraine , we can conclude that the war might be coming to a standstill sooner than later.


I am not too sure. And even if that were the case, I simply dont see the war coming to a standstill any time soon. We dont yet know what either side is going to do next. Sure we can guess...

lets say Ukraine's offensive grinds to a halt. What then ? Try again next year ? That does appear to be the plan noting the gains advertised did not happen this year.
If Russia just sits back and soaks it up, eventually Ukraine will run out of men. They will still have men, they just wont be able to do much because they wont have the manpower for a further offensive.

I would like to think that Poland is not stupid enough to enter the war, but I saw some commentary about that. As previously commented whoever is elected in the US will want to sabre rattle (its a national past time). Russia seems to be doing its thing, so unless there is a material change, it will just carry on.

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I am not too sure. And even if that were the case, I simply dont see the war coming to a standstill any time soon. We dont yet know what either side is going to do next. Sure we can guess...

lets say Ukraine's offensive grinds to a halt. What then ? Try again next year ? That does appear to be the plan noting the gains advertised did not happen this year.
If Russia just sits back and soaks it up, eventually Ukraine will run out of men. They will still have men, they just wont be able to do much because they wont have the manpower for a further offensive.

I would like to think that Poland is not stupid enough to enter the war, but I saw some commentary about that. As previously commented whoever is elected in the US will want to sabre rattle (its a national past time). Russia seems to be doing its thing, so unless there is a material change, it will just carry on.


Amazing how media can be used and weaponized to spin or try to create divisions subtly ya ?


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Amazing how media can be used and weaponized to spin or try to create divisions subtly ya ?


https://i.imgur.com/JlumfRnl.jpg


google Hew Edwards, a BBC presenter. The police emphatically stated that he committed no crime. However, as he works for the BBC a rival tabloid decided to destroy him, and duly did so. I already posted a video yesterday or the day before about the media during the Iraq war, and a month or so ago I posted the video where the Russians had a press conference about Nord Stream Two - NO journalist ask a single question about NS2 at the end of the statement, they all asked about something else. When you see shit like that you know the Media is no longer reporting the news, its all agenda driven now.

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google Hew Edwards, a BBC presenter. The police emphatically stated that he committed no crime. However, as he works for the BBC a rival tabloid decided to destroy him, and duly did so. I already posted a video yesterday or the day before about the media during the Iraq war, and a month or so ago I posted the video where the Russians had a press conference about Nord Stream Two - NO journalist ask a single question about NS2 at the end of the statement, they all asked about something else. When you see shit like that you know the Media is no longer reporting the news, its all agenda driven now.


"the media", lol. imagine trying to make a point and failing immediately by acting like "the media" is some kind of monolith. why do kremlin shills struggle with nuance so much? xD
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Aug 8 2023 11:38am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 8 2023 10:29am)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66383377

BBC reports are increasingly cold water


Pivot coming soon, while this becomes a frozen conflict and slowly starts to fade off the first page.

It's okay though, we're being primed for the next struggle between the forces of good and those of evil that took over Niger.

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"the media", lol. imagine trying to make a point and failing immediately by acting like "the media" is some kind of monolith. why do kremlin shills struggle with nuance so much? xD


Putin's leeches always find "Western Media" very convenient when it's about to feed their copium ^_^

Just have to cherry pick up and voilà, bon appetit !


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"When Ukraine first requested Western tanks, satellite images show Russia had only started to build fortifications. By time Ukraine finally received tanks, hundreds of miles of fortifications were visible." | Ukraine maps show price of allies’ hesitation

https://twitter.com/peterrough/status/1688921331667206144

=> So true, time to put all in.
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Putin's leeches always find "Western Media" very convenient when it's about to feed their copium ^_^

Just have to cherry pick up and voilà, bon appetit !


it's so dumb too. there is plenty of legitimate criticism to be had regarding the reporting of this war. there's some good reporting of course, but many outlets really do a shoddy job at times.

that's not enough for our kremlin bots though. for them it always has to be a grand conspiracy, lol. so they simplistically claim "tHe mEdiA iS nO lOnGeR rEpOrTiNg tHe nEwS - iT's aLL jUsT aGeNdA dRiVeN fAkE nEwS" - while ironically relying on actual propaganda by the state owned media of a warmongering dictator for "their" version.
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